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Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by suyash »

cracrecry wrote: post #166

In our modern societies there are lots of cancer risk involved that (most) people can not see. For example using a microwave with microscopic cracks in the glass and staying nearby. All the diesel particles and exhaust car fumes and tire dust in the cities. The terrible air quality near maritime ports because of the bad quality ships do with ultra cheap fuels. The extermination of gut microbiota with the use of pesti…

yes, people think they are living healthy lifestyle for example if you eat fish thinking it's healthy but you may not know that fish has micro plastics inside it's flesh from the polluted ocean/seas that eventually goes inside human body.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by danuker »

mmmmmbop wrote: post #144
danuker wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is nothing one can do to avoid disease eventually. You can move where this cancer is rare. https://ourworldindata.org/cancer#the-prevalence-of-cancer-a... Or better yet, optimize for a total healthy lifespan, not just against cancer: https://ourworldindata.org/burden-of-disease#the-global-dist...

These are really interesting maps, but I'm missing a few important data points. For the cancer one, I feel like it's misleading. E.g. Russia and Central Africa might be low in cancer because of their low life expectancy, and Central Africa additionally because of its majority black population (which I assume to be less prone to skin cancer). As a white person, I believe it would be a mistake to move to Central Africa…

> might be low in cancer because of their low life expectancy

No, the cancer rates are "measured as the age-standardized percentage".

But skin color definitely plays a role, at least in skin cancer, and I don't think the figures account for it. I did not think of that, thank you!

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by axiomsEnd »

suyash wrote: post #171
cracrecry wrote: post #166

In our modern societies there are lots of cancer risk involved that (most) people can not see. For example using a microwave with microscopic cracks in the glass and staying nearby. All the diesel particles and exhaust car fumes and tire dust in the cities. The terrible air quality near maritime ports because of the bad quality ships do with ultra cheap fuels. The extermination of gut microbiota with the use of pesti…

yes, people think they are living healthy lifestyle for example if you eat fish thinking it's healthy but you may not know that fish has micro plastics inside it's flesh from the polluted ocean/seas that eventually goes inside human body.

Do you have any research papers linking microplastics in fish with certain cancers, and how/why is microplastic in fish is more harmful than... All other microplastic we i gest?

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by kmm »

AlexAffe wrote: post #149

She mentions a diet rich in Protein. Even Supplements like Whey Protein Shakes. I wonder how that extra growth fuel contributes to cancer cell growth. At the very instance kf cell division, there is a small chance of the cell going 'rogue', becoming a cancer cell. In all of our bodies, all of the time. Thankfully the chance is pretty slim, but when I train a lot and eat a lot of protein, then I will have a much highe…

Protein shakes and workouts wouldn't lead to a higher rate of cell division in the breast, would it? Those cells just go through their natural turnover, influenced mostly by estrogen (which actually has been suspected to play a role in causing breast cancer: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17113977/ )

If anything, you'd expect cancer of the muscle, myosarcoma, to be involved with muscle growth, which thankfully is really rare. Possibly because muscle growth is mostly a matter of hypertrophy of the muscle fibers, not the growth of more muscle cells.

I'd be surprised if the very real health benefits of staying active didn't way outweigh the possibly increased risk of cancer due to increased cell activity.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by MarcoZavala »

no1lives4ever wrote: post #128
lormayna wrote: post #77

As usual correlation don't imply causation. My uncle was a professional national level runner, he was the healtier person that I know: he ran several kilometers every day, ate correctly, no drinking, no smoking, sleep at least 8 hours/day, etc. He died from cardiovascular problems. This not means that a correct and healty lifestyle is not going to reduce the risk, but it's not the only factor.

The former captain of the Indian cricket team, Sourav Ganguly, recently suffered a heart attack while he was exercising. He was lucky that he was able to get prompt medical attention and recovered. But he was a fit professional athlete who was used to exercise from a young age and even he suffered from cardiac problems.

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Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by ekanes »

AlexAffe wrote: post #149

She mentions a diet rich in Protein. Even Supplements like Whey Protein Shakes. I wonder how that extra growth fuel contributes to cancer cell growth. At the very instance kf cell division, there is a small chance of the cell going 'rogue', becoming a cancer cell. In all of our bodies, all of the time. Thankfully the chance is pretty slim, but when I train a lot and eat a lot of protein, then I will have a much highe…

I don’t think when we work out, we get more cell division. Our muscle fibers get stronger and grow wider (vs adding more muscles).

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by easytiger »

Findecanor wrote: post #42
epistasis wrote: post #8

Individually, a person can reduce their cancer risk with a few things like not smoking, and avoiding sunburns, etc. but that does not eliminate the risk of cancer. It's not a disease that primarily comes from unhealthy living. That said, there is a toooon of cancer that we can prevent as a society though better public health messaging and better environmental laws, such as creating housing and cities that ban cars, s…

The most common cancer: colon cancer, would be 95% preventable if only people got over silly notions about their butts and got a colonoscopy when they have reached age 45-50. Colon cancer takes a decade to develop from polyp to tumour. The main purpose of a colonoscopy is to find and snip any polyps there could be in the colon. Then you'd be safe from colon cancer for a decade or more. You would normally not feel muc…

I know some gastroenterologists and they take competitive pride in how good they are at scoping patients. Not everywhere does the restricted diet as long as you suggest, but just don't eat bread with little seeds on it. They hate that

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by libeclipse »

cracrecry wrote: post #166

In our modern societies there are lots of cancer risk involved that (most) people can not see. For example using a microwave with microscopic cracks in the glass and staying nearby. All the diesel particles and exhaust car fumes and tire dust in the cities. The terrible air quality near maritime ports because of the bad quality ships do with ultra cheap fuels. The extermination of gut microbiota with the use of pesti…

Microwaves are non-ionising radiation

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by djtango »

acadapter wrote: post #169
cracrecry wrote: post #166

In our modern societies there are lots of cancer risk involved that (most) people can not see. For example using a microwave with microscopic cracks in the glass and staying nearby. All the diesel particles and exhaust car fumes and tire dust in the cities. The terrible air quality near maritime ports because of the bad quality ships do with ultra cheap fuels. The extermination of gut microbiota with the use of pesti…

Why does the glass matter in a microwave oven? I thought the metal box (and the metal mesh) was enough to block.

I too am curious - if I had to speculate, maybe the crack is a high surface area for microwave scattering which means the rays escape the device so is an irradiation hazard?

EDIT wavelength of microwaves is 1mm so could also be efficient diffraction

Long time since I've had to think about these things... Unsure...

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