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Flight characteristics of anomalous unidentified aerial vehicles (2019)

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Re: Flight characteristics of anomalous unidentified aerial vehicles (2019)

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Just to level set, I am NOT saying that ET's do not exist. But, I have personally seen a UFO or Unexplained blah blah, double speak thing. I live near Seattle, with a beautiful view of Lake Washington facing East and a wonderful view of Mt. Rainier, the location of the first documented UFO sighting. One beautiful sunny summer day, I was sitting out on my deck relaxing and I saw a UFO near Mt. Ranier, a bit south of t…

So flying objects remain unidentified until they're identified?

Exactly

Re: Flight characteristics of anomalous unidentified aerial vehicles (2019)

#82

Just to level set, I am NOT saying that ET's do not exist. But, I have personally seen a UFO or Unexplained blah blah, double speak thing. I live near Seattle, with a beautiful view of Lake Washington facing East and a wonderful view of Mt. Rainier, the location of the first documented UFO sighting. One beautiful sunny summer day, I was sitting out on my deck relaxing and I saw a UFO near Mt. Ranier, a bit south of t…

Wow, so all you need to cause a whole bunch of UFO sightings is a paramotor with a reflective wing? Interesting...

Re: Flight characteristics of anomalous unidentified aerial vehicles (2019)

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The radar and FLIR aren't as easy to 'trick' though.

They could be, with RF and laser equipment running reasonably-advanced software to spoof such sensors . There are a lot of gotchas to work out here, but it's my best guess, aside from "craft that defy physics." Source: worked on such military equipment, back in the early 90s.

If a system can reliably spoof the entire sensor arsenal of a carrier fleet remotely and without being detected then the U.S. has bigger problems than aliens.

Re: Flight characteristics of anomalous unidentified aerial vehicles (2019)

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post #82

Just to level set, I am NOT saying that ET's do not exist. But, I have personally seen a UFO or Unexplained blah blah, double speak thing. I live near Seattle, with a beautiful view of Lake Washington facing East and a wonderful view of Mt. Rainier, the location of the first documented UFO sighting. One beautiful sunny summer day, I was sitting out on my deck relaxing and I saw a UFO near Mt. Ranier, a bit south of t…

Wow, so all you need to cause a whole bunch of UFO sightings is a paramotor with a reflective wing? Interesting...

And a big mountain with weird atmospheric anomalies around it. There are a lot of myths about Mt. Tahoma, the Native American name for Mt. Ranier. Probably because of the various atmospheric anomalies, or... who knows :)

Just kidding around, I see strange cloud formations and other odd looking things wafting off the top or side of it. I can see where someone could mistake some of those things for something super natural. IMO, Nature is pretty super!

Re: Flight characteristics of anomalous unidentified aerial vehicles (2019)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, so all you need to cause a whole bunch of UFO sightings is a paramotor with a reflective wing? Interesting...

And a big mountain with weird atmospheric anomalies around it. There are a lot of myths about Mt. Tahoma, the Native American name for Mt. Ranier. Probably because of the various atmospheric anomalies, or... who knows :) Just kidding around, I see strange cloud formations and other odd looking things wafting off the top or side of it. I can see where someone could mistake some of those things for something super natu…

In my experience, Mt. Rainier is king of the lenticular cloud formations.

Re: Flight characteristics of anomalous unidentified aerial vehicles (2019)

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It was news to me that in the Nimitz event ballistic missile defense radar was actually observing the UAVs in low Earth orbit days before the fighter jet encounter. Truly wild stuff. If I had to hazard a guess, these are unmanned (unaliened?) probes, the same ones that have been here for centuries or more. They may not even know or care what humans are or what we're up to. Maybe they keep dipping to the water to take…

I can't get my head around why the govt. is now talking openly about this subject after casting it into the "basement" after project blue book. You have these patents the Navy recently applied for and received that indicate(if believed)[1] that the govt. now has craft that can also achieve stuff like what was described by OP. So for me it really comes down to 3 scenarios: 1 - The crafts are non-human technology, the…

I came across an interesting theory on why the gov’t is being more open about UAV observations in a HN comment a while back - paraphrasing:

Pilots may be under-reporting UAV sitings due to the fear of being labeled as crackpots and or dismissed. By speaking more openly about the subject the gov’t is signaling that it’s okay to talk about and shouldn’t be ridiculed.

Re: Flight characteristics of anomalous unidentified aerial vehicles (2019)

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Just to level set, I am NOT saying that ET's do not exist. But, I have personally seen a UFO or Unexplained blah blah, double speak thing. I live near Seattle, with a beautiful view of Lake Washington facing East and a wonderful view of Mt. Rainier, the location of the first documented UFO sighting. One beautiful sunny summer day, I was sitting out on my deck relaxing and I saw a UFO near Mt. Ranier, a bit south of t…

The sightings like yours (saw a distant light or dot moving in the distance) are typically not the interesting ones, for the reasons you describe. There are just so many unfalsifiable prosaic explanations, and just a dozen or so will account for 95% of accounts from reliable observers.

The interesting ones are "close encounters" like the Nimitz incident with multiple observers, where either the observers are making an exceptional effort to lie, or something extraordinary was truly witnessed. Extra point for those including multiple data points like radar tracks, visual recordings, or radiation burns.

Also, nit: the "flying saucer" phenomenon was popularized by the Rainier Kenneth Arnold sighting, but it was far from the first recorded sighting [0] [1].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_fighter

Re: Flight characteristics of anomalous unidentified aerial vehicles (2019)

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post #82

Just to level set, I am NOT saying that ET's do not exist. But, I have personally seen a UFO or Unexplained blah blah, double speak thing. I live near Seattle, with a beautiful view of Lake Washington facing East and a wonderful view of Mt. Rainier, the location of the first documented UFO sighting. One beautiful sunny summer day, I was sitting out on my deck relaxing and I saw a UFO near Mt. Ranier, a bit south of t…

Wow, so all you need to cause a whole bunch of UFO sightings is a paramotor with a reflective wing? Interesting...

Or a bunch of birds floating above football floodlights

https://old.reddit.com/r/CasualUK/comments/rqc69n/i_thought_...

Re: Flight characteristics of anomalous unidentified aerial vehicles (2019)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The durations are expressed in ‘ship time’, ie the perceived duration from the pov of the ship. This is explicited further in the document.

Off topic comment: I'm pretty sure "explicited" is not a real word, but you've convinced me that it ought to be. Perfectly clear what you meant. Can somebody add this to the dictionary, please?

ah! TIL, I always thought it was a real word.

Re: Flight characteristics of anomalous unidentified aerial vehicles (2019)

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From the study: >Collectively, these observations strongly suggest that these UAVs should be carefully studied by scientists [9,10,11,12,13]. >Unfortunately, the attitude that the study of UAVs (UFOs) is “unscientific” pervades the scientific community, including SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) [34], which is surprising, especially since efforts are underway to search for extraterrestrial artifacts in…

I find this hilarious and poignant with regards to science, its ideals, and the flawed humans involved in it. Kind of hard to ask honest questions when some of those questions suffer logical fallacies like appeals to shame
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