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Write your app in HTML5, upload it and get back app-store ready apps

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Re: Write your app in HTML5, upload it and get back app-store ready apps

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I'm writing really a very large app for the company I work for. We're using PhoneGap with HTML and JavaScript and have many plugins. What we are not having problems with is the fact that we only really have a single thread to do everything. All I can say is that I'm glad it wasn't my idea to build it this way.

This is a surprisingly often ignored limitation of the browsers. You need threads to achieve decent performance given any significant complexity, and mobile CPUs are going multi-core.

Re: Write your app in HTML5, upload it and get back app-store ready apps

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Apple's "App Store" app on iOS uses HTML...

Certainly seems like it, or at least every page it displays is doing a separate server call that is not cached very well.

Last I checked (2+ years ago), iTunes on Mac uses an XML format that describes the layout of the page - pretty close to HTML.

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Somehow we ended up with very different experiences. I played with Sencha Mobile Kitchen Sink demo on the iPhone 4 and it was quite impressive. http://www.sencha.com/products/touch/demos/ Yes, it lags ever so slightly, but faster CPU in iPhone 5 should take care of that. My only other complain is that they messed up calculating tap areas for tabbar/toolbar items - Sencha has tap area equal to the visual size of the b…

Yes, it lags ever so slightly, but faster CPU in iPhone 5 should take care of that. This is always the reply of web developers -- even on the desktop! "Yes, it's slow now, but it'll be faster with new hardware!". Meanwhile, the native applications use that additional processor power to do more stuff , and the webapps fall further behind again.

So? Desktop HTML/JS was too slow for a while, all the way until the point when it became fast enough to handle maps, email, finance etc. Remember MapPoint? It used o be a desktop map application. No one uses it anymore.

Re: Write your app in HTML5, upload it and get back app-store ready apps

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I can't see why anybody would actually use jQuery Mobile and Sencha for web app development. I've tried them last week and they were impressive on a desktop browser. On a mobile device, not so much. Both jQuery Mobile and Sencha feel slow, very slow. The animations are choppy. Response times on clicks are way too long. Everything flickers like mad. Focus borders are drawn at all the wrong places. I can actually feel…

Somehow we ended up with very different experiences. I played with Sencha Mobile Kitchen Sink demo on the iPhone 4 and it was quite impressive. http://www.sencha.com/products/touch/demos/ Yes, it lags ever so slightly, but faster CPU in iPhone 5 should take care of that. My only other complain is that they messed up calculating tap areas for tabbar/toolbar items - Sencha has tap area equal to the visual size of the b…

I have to wonder who is the downvoting person, who beleives the above post does not contribute to the discussion? Would you rather this not be posted at all? Because if you keep with the downvotes that's what's going to happen - no links to Sencha demo, no keen observations about tap areas, no personal opinion from experienced i-thing developer.

I also wonder where are the people who would appreciate this sort of contribution. They gotta be somewhere...

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As if by magic, this story was just published: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/how_facebook_mobile_wil...

It took m a few seconds to realize what is wrong with "HTML5 fist of rage" logo in the article. The fist has 6 fingers. To be fair the original HTML5 logo isn't that much better...

6 fingered fist is the original logo. (More precisely, it's the best we had to use until the release of the w3c one you're referring to.)

Re: Write your app in HTML5, upload it and get back app-store ready apps

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I think PhoneGap is doing great work, they're obviously getting better, and I don't mean to diminish what others have poured so much effort into. But, are there any successful apps made with PhoneGap? Writing apps in HTML5 is constantly hyped, but there isn't a single HTML app out of the dozens on my iPhone except Netflix. PhoneGap's app gallery doesn't have a single app I've heard of. (The Netflix app isn't too plea…

The FT app is based on html5. Initially, they had an app, but transitioned quickly to html5. Takes a wee bit longer to load, but barely notice that anymore. The experience otherwise is pretty much the same. And for what its worth, it's the best news app on my ipad.

Re: Write your app in HTML5, upload it and get back app-store ready apps

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I started looking at PhoneGap but wasn't happy with Jquery Mobile for the UI. I am now trying out Titanium which offers a similar promise of ease for web/Javascript developers but with more native UI elements. So far so good but developing in Aptana/Eclipse-based Titanium Studio is a drag.

The more "consumer" your app the more likely it needs to be mobile. But I think there is probably a large class of apps where PhoneGap/Titanium make sense. Definitely in the internal business category where the audience is finite and the look-and-feel is secondary to the functionality and cost/ease of development and maintenance.

Re: Write your app in HTML5, upload it and get back app-store ready apps

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Upload your website, download a native app. What is wrong with this picture? If you can build your app as a web app and don't require hardware access then I'd think twice whether a native app is required.

There are plenty of good reasons to write apps this way, not the least of which being access to the app store. (Unless you've figured out a way to charge $1.99 for access to a mobile web site, in which case, God bless.)

There used to be an HTML app store. I can't find it now, as I don't remember the name, but that existed.

It's also pretty easy to just implement a registration fee, especially now with Stripe out in the wild.

If you're really looking to limit access though, you could probably use something like gumroad to get it off the ground.

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