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My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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post #277

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>Having to work multiple jobs to keep a roof over your head, massive inflation, burnout from everything, covid spikes recently So the consequences of inept, corrupt, and broken governmental systems basically.

An economic system with no reasonable checks and balances? Is that what you mean by broken governmental system? Any suggestions how to unbreak it?

> Any suggestions how to unbreak it?

I wish, but no. My biggest take away from watching economies and governments get borked by people who don't know what they're doing is that anything I could suggest will probably make matters worse. I'm a software developer, not a specialist in societies.

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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My (crude) version of the same thing requires that I go 1000 meters from my house to press the button to enable the DNS for another 30 min of browsing (button is on a custom phone app, distance measured using phone GPS). One feature that I want to implement is to have the system randomly enable for 10 minutes - and to signal this by changing the color of light from a desk lamp (Phillips Hue). The idea is that when th…

Related to this but somewhat tangentially, I’ve been trying to figure out how I could programmatically determine if I look “busy” and engage Do Not Disturb for a period of time (roughly pomodoro interval) so that emails and alerts can’t distract me. The problem is that when I’m doing rudimentary code my interactions can be rather intense and obvious, but the more technical the problem the more I slow down, mulling th…

I have tried a number of similar approaches (pomodoro etc) before which let us to create an extension to auto-toggle notifs when you focus on coding. Works for VS Code so far. Check out https://stateful.com/@sourishkrout & https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=stateful.... If you're on VS Code I'd love to hear what you think.

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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How are you calculating that? One standard 330ml bottle of beer at 5% has a little less alcohol than a standard pour (150ml) of 13% wine. As soon as you move to a pint or 500ml can of beer you go over it. This is why a glass of wine and a bottle of beer are taken as roughly equal in terms of alcohol content. 330×5%

A glass of red wine is 250ml.

That would get you exactly three glasses from a bottle. That's… not a normal pour of wine in any country.

A standard size bottle of wine (750ml) serves five or six glasses, but the hospitality industry usually goes for five out of a bottle. 150ml (or 5oz) is what you can reasonably expect in restaurants and bars for the average glass of wine.

Do you honestly pour a third of a bottle at a time for wine?

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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post #289

I feel like I could say the same about infinite news which I'd define as a site I can check several times a day and see new "top stories". This would include Reddit and HN. I find it super addicting to check too many times and then get sucked into spending too much time reading comments and sometimes articles. Rarely am I actually better off for it . Contrast to 20-30yrs ago where at best you got a newspaper once a d…

For a long time I loved reading comments to news stories or other discussions on reddit, for example.

But I have found that most comments are actually at the very least misinformed, often wrong and clearly not very educated and I have started asking myself why I am exposing myself to this low quality messages. (There are of course notable exceptions found aplenty)

Realizing this, I have stopped reading most comments and generally just stick to a few main newspaper sites that still have decent journalism.

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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Thankfully my monkey brain is stronger than my lizard brain when it comes to things like infinite scroll, modals and other horrible UI features that nobody in their right mind should add to any website. Even just a couple of minutes of twitter usage makes me rage quit the whole website. Why do you pause my video when I scroll down it's just a politician speaking I don't need to see it only listen WHY YOU DO THIS? I'm…

This is something I also noticed a lot and find it equally infuriating. I can only guess why things are like this: you and most users on HN have at least a rudimentary understanding, often an expert understanding, of how a browser works under the hood. You know what a server is, what HTML is, what a browser history is, how cookies work, etc. But some manager wants to tap into the huge market of technically illiterate…

> The manager tells his devs to just "make it work" for the most challenged user, to abstract away all these nuances of how a browser works. They use test groups to find out how my grandma expects a website to work and they basically make a smart phone converge towards one of those gizmos you saw on Star Trek, and then you get something like the Twitter interface.

Nooooo they do not do this. If they did, modern UIs wouldn't confuse my elderly parents much worse than old ones did.

Dear all tech companies (but looking at you, Google, since they won't stop buying cheap Android phones): every time you decide to have some full-screen horseshit notification pop up on an action, instead of doing the usual thing (say, a "hey, update this for new stuff!" thing) I get a fucking phone call to help "fix it". Goddamn stop it, the rest of us hate that too (my intent was to open the app to do something, so don't get in my way) but it's usability poison for the olds.

That includes those new tabs in Firefox every time there's an update. It's confusing. Stop it. Oh, and FF, bring back normal-ass menus, because my parents (unfortunately) use Windows. Browsers have proven Apple right all along with forcing the top-of-screen "file, edit, view..." menu, since apparently even major vendors can't be trusted to do the sane thing with those instead of cramming it all in some mysterious kitchen-sink button-opened dropdown.

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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Thankfully my monkey brain is stronger than my lizard brain when it comes to things like infinite scroll, modals and other horrible UI features that nobody in their right mind should add to any website. Even just a couple of minutes of twitter usage makes me rage quit the whole website. Why do you pause my video when I scroll down it's just a politician speaking I don't need to see it only listen WHY YOU DO THIS? I'm…

It's why they want us back in the office. The executives do the same thing, so they know.

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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I’m curious what the generational divide is for this. I’m 57, love tech and enjoy the positive side of the internet in limited doses. But I find most social media boring. There is incredible and AMAZING art, accidental moments, serious discussion and fascinating analysis of the world to be found online. But without grounding myself in genuine experience in the stinky, cruel real world of human interaction, nature, an…

I think the distinction is that you're 24-year-old daughter has a lot of friends online, and you don't

I’m mid thirties and have no social media, but I’m still hooked on the internet (HN and reddit, mostly), so friends online isn’t necessarily the difference.

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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post #289

I feel like I could say the same about infinite news which I'd define as a site I can check several times a day and see new "top stories". This would include Reddit and HN. I find it super addicting to check too many times and then get sucked into spending too much time reading comments and sometimes articles. Rarely am I actually better off for it . Contrast to 20-30yrs ago where at best you got a newspaper once a d…

I receive some hacker news posts along with my other RSS feeds once per day, in the morning. You can still get the best of HN without "browsing".

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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post #350

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> Good. The fact that they alienate power users means the platform will not be preferred by power users, and most of the content on it will have dubious value. It doesn't work like that. Stratechery explains why. Aggregators aggregate users and even power users like to talk to/be listened to by a lot of people. So Twitter and Youtube and the like don't even need to target power users, in general. They need to target…

> Stratechery explains why. I have experienced it myself, and anyone else can theorize all they want, but they can't invalidate my experience. As an example, I can no longer use YouTube for tutorials, because they have no dislike signal visible to me, and as such, I can't judge whether they are worth watching. I can not stand Reddit's new UI. But even with the old UI, the massive amount of users attract a lot of heav…

So true, 100% on the tutorial videos. I found myself watching this super basic tutorial video the other day that had a lot of polish and shine but lacked a huge amount of substance. I wondered how such videos would operate if the downvotes were still visible. Yes downvotes played a strong role in signaling tutorial quality.

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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> I'm also one of those people who randomly clicks and "paints" the text on every website I use. On Reddit this means that I manage to close the thread by accident all the time because someone thought it would be a good idea to open the threads in a modal that closes when you click outside of it. I thought I was the only one with this habit hah! IMHO this "close modal when clicking outside of it" is a UX pattern you…

I’m 90% sure I’ll be done with Reddit if they ditch old view. It’s honestly that integral for me lol

The old.reddit redirect and RES are really the only reason I've continued to use the site at all.

With a well curated selection of subreddits (and removal of a lot of the "default" ones) it's actually really good. My brain naturally starts going "these links aren't really interesting anymore" after 100-200 links, and I task switch as a result.

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