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To add to this bit of trivia. In Sweden this was never a thing where your job became your surname. If you go to a cemetery you'll sometimes see the occupation on the gravestone though, especially on older graves and if it was a more higher class job.
Admittedly it seems less common, but... there certainly are some Smeds in Sweden (and the rest of Scandinavia). The names are not ALL sons/sens and geographic features... https://forebears.io/surnames/smed
Map of Surnames in Europe
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#192Very neat. My ancestors are not European, they are Lebanese, but I was able to find their last name in the countries they emigrated to long ago in Europe, and the cities make sense, although there's more than I thought in certain countries! For those interested, depending on where you live, you can access Ancestry.com through the Public Library for free. In Ottawa, that was case, although as of Jan. 1, 2022, you have…
Have you tried looking into the Ellis Island records for your Great Grandfather? https://heritage.statueofliberty.org/ I was able to find some of my ancestors who came to the US from those records. People usually came by ship and New York City was one of the main points of entries to the US.
So as you can see, I would never have guessed it, and we found it by manually searching by timeline for anyone from "Lebanon", or "Syria", or even "Turkey", as data entry was usually done by just a person that may have never heard of that language, and just "guessed". Remember, IDs are a modern invention, so back then, it was not standardized.
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#193Very neat. My ancestors are not European, they are Lebanese, but I was able to find their last name in the countries they emigrated to long ago in Europe, and the cities make sense, although there's more than I thought in certain countries! For those interested, depending on where you live, you can access Ancestry.com through the Public Library for free. In Ottawa, that was case, although as of Jan. 1, 2022, you have…
I’m curious to hear about the migration story? We’re there many Lebanese immigrants in Europe in the 1800s?
I don't have any numbers, but I wouldn't say there was a lot, because European cities were pretty established, so hard to start a new life there. But I do know that people from my Mom's village were doing trades with Europeans, and my Great Great Grandmother, was called Marianna and my Great Aunt was called Juliette. They also could speak French in the early 1900s, well before WW1 or WW2. Many people think that French was introduced after WW2 during the French Mandate, but Lebanese have been travelling overseas for a long time, and had ties to many countries. I think I read somewhere that even going back to 1600s they had ties to France.
On the other hand, there are also ties to Greece from the Orthodox side that date back > 1500 years.
But getting back to Europe, I would say mass migration were popular to South America, especially Brazil (from my Dad's village, many people went there, in addition to the US, and North America. I even met a Lebanese friend from Curaçao, and when I was at his house, they didn't speak Lebanese, they spoke Papiamento! Basically, they adapt and learn whatever language is needed. Remember, Lebanon was once a Roman Province (although Latin wasn't spoke everywhere), and before Greek language was prevalent, and before that, Syriac (western aramaic). In the year 600, Arabic started moving in. So having to learn new languages is not new in our history.
So far, what I've done is take my Dad's stories, and try to link them to actual records, and so far he's been right! He loves history, and my mom is a walking encyclopedia of family names. They know the villages the names come from.
Oh, I even found graves listed in the US from early 1800s with the name Khouri, and it was of a soldier. I suck at US history, so whatever war was back then, there was a Lebanese person there.
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I flagged this submission and recommend this post be deleted and the submitter penalized.
Why? Sites need ads to keep running. There's only two fixed ads and one popup
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
Replying to you for... polite purposes. Saying 'be better than' shouldn't be breaking any rules in regards to 'calling this reddit'. I'm merely making a point that I've seen similar actions performed by redditors, and that I expect better. Is that really so terrible? If you think it is, you need to grow up and come to understand how reality actually works friend. Just because you don't like something someone is sayin…
Stick around and make positive contributions and you'll see a downvote button. Can't remember if it's 250 or 750 karma. Arguing with somebody who's patiently explaining why you got flagged isn't productive. I didn't flag or downvote your dead comment, but for the record, I would have if it wasn't already dead. I'd downvote the comment I'm replying to, but cool feature, you don't get to downvote direct replies. And, d…
And again, just because you think you are correct Klyrs, doesn't mean you are. Even if the admins/moderators agree with you, because their own logic may well be flawed too.
Of course this applies equally to me, but again... making inference of ones actions resembling the distasteful actions of others, should never be 'not allowed'. Such thinking enables terrible people to be terrible, and shouldn't be tolerated.
Finally, I know that nobody owes me a fight. This is why I say I am not arguing with you. I am merely making my opinion clear. If you see this as a fight, that's entirely on you.
You have a good day now.
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#196Portugal isn't Europe?
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#197This website is overloaded with adds. It almost feels like a scam. Based on the fact that almost all other comments are not talking about it, I guess at least one of the following hypotheses is true (if not all of them): - most people here use an efficient addblocker - The website changed since its first appearance on the first page (maximize revenue?) - some comments are sponsored - on mobile it feels overwhelming b…
It also tried to autocomplete CC data.. Feels like a scam.