Ask HN: What do Russians on HN think about this war? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: What do Russians on HN think about this war?

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Post by ethanbond » Mon, Mar 07, 2022, 4:27 PM UTC

throwaway_9357 wrote: post #32

I am disgusted at all 3 political sides involved. Most disgusted with EU/US, followed by Ukrainian government and finally by the Russian Government. A war does not happen for no reason. Putin is a known to be a rational actor. Obviously ordinary people do not want war. So you have to ask yourself, what events led to the war? What was done to prevent it? What is done to stop it now? Why am I disgusted with US/EU? Firs…

A “puppet government” voted into power with 70%+ of the popular vote is just called “a government that disagrees with me.”

Re: Ask HN: What do Russians on HN think about this war?

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Post by throwaway_9357 » Mon, Mar 07, 2022, 4:31 PM UTC

Wiseacre wrote: post #39

throwaway_9357 wrote: post #32

I am disgusted at all 3 political sides involved. Most disgusted with EU/US, followed by Ukrainian government and finally by the Russian Government. A war does not happen for no reason. Putin is a known to be a rational actor. Obviously ordinary people do not want war. So you have to ask yourself, what events led to the war? What was done to prevent it? What is done to stop it now? Why am I disgusted with US/EU? Firs…

Can you explain this cancellation of everything Russian? The Russian restaurant near me is being embraced by the local community. Most people here feel bad for the Ukrainian and Russian people and only have hatred for Putin. Was a throwaway necessary for this comment?

I spent a lot of time in an EU country and still have a lot of people I met on Instagram. These are normal people and a lot of them non stop post Russian hate now. Some Russian culture events got cancelled by the venue. I realize I may be exaggerating but it has just gotten to me

Re: Ask HN: What do Russians on HN think about this war?

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Post by throwaway_9357 » Mon, Mar 07, 2022, 4:32 PM UTC

Wiseacre wrote: post #39

throwaway_9357 wrote: post #32

I am disgusted at all 3 political sides involved. Most disgusted with EU/US, followed by Ukrainian government and finally by the Russian Government. A war does not happen for no reason. Putin is a known to be a rational actor. Obviously ordinary people do not want war. So you have to ask yourself, what events led to the war? What was done to prevent it? What is done to stop it now? Why am I disgusted with US/EU? Firs…

Can you explain this cancellation of everything Russian? The Russian restaurant near me is being embraced by the local community. Most people here feel bad for the Ukrainian and Russian people and only have hatred for Putin. Was a throwaway necessary for this comment?

Throwaway was necessary because a close friend of mine reads this forum daily and knows my username. We are avoiding this topic at all cost

Re: Ask HN: What do Russians on HN think about this war?

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Post by yucky » Mon, Mar 07, 2022, 4:32 PM UTC

marius_k wrote: post #30

crownvic wrote: post #26

On the streets here, almost everyone I hear supports everything in full. Probably, around 70% support this, and the other 30% are not sure/against it. The local and nationwide TV states that they found 30 Pentagon-funded biowarfare labs in Ukraine, got all the docs, and are preparing some statements for the West. Obviously, high-level propaganda flows from Russia and the West both. I suspect the truth is somewhere in…

> 30 Pentagon-funded biowarfare labs in Ukraine. That just does not make any sense to me. Why should those labs be somewhere in Ukraine rather than in US?

>Why should those labs be somewhere in Ukraine rather than in US?

Same reason we offshore gain of function virus research to Wuhan China.

That being said, this is the first I've heard of this claim so I have zero idea how true it is.

Re: Ask HN: What do Russians on HN think about this war?

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Post by throwaway_9357 » Mon, Mar 07, 2022, 4:34 PM UTC

MattGaiser wrote: post #38

throwaway_9357 wrote: post #32

I am disgusted at all 3 political sides involved. Most disgusted with EU/US, followed by Ukrainian government and finally by the Russian Government. A war does not happen for no reason. Putin is a known to be a rational actor. Obviously ordinary people do not want war. So you have to ask yourself, what events led to the war? What was done to prevent it? What is done to stop it now? Why am I disgusted with US/EU? Firs…

> Thirdly they are now actively encouraging war by sending weapons The alternative to sending weapons being Ukraine being brutally beaten rather than given a chance to defend itself. There is a reason that nearly every former Soviet occupied country fled to NATO.

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Re: Ask HN: What do Russians on HN think about this war?

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Post by crownvic » Mon, Mar 07, 2022, 4:41 PM UTC

yucky wrote: post #44

marius_k wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 30 Pentagon-funded biowarfare labs in Ukraine. That just does not make any sense to me. Why should those labs be somewhere in Ukraine rather than in US?

>Why should those labs be somewhere in Ukraine rather than in US? Same reason we offshore gain of function virus research to Wuhan China. That being said, this is the first I've heard of this claim so I have zero idea how true it is.

I have a zero idea, too. This is currently circulated by Russian local/nationwide outlets.

Re: Ask HN: What do Russians on HN think about this war?

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Post by throwaway_9357 » Mon, Mar 07, 2022, 4:42 PM UTC

ethanbond wrote: post #41

throwaway_9357 wrote: post #32

I am disgusted at all 3 political sides involved. Most disgusted with EU/US, followed by Ukrainian government and finally by the Russian Government. A war does not happen for no reason. Putin is a known to be a rational actor. Obviously ordinary people do not want war. So you have to ask yourself, what events led to the war? What was done to prevent it? What is done to stop it now? Why am I disgusted with US/EU? Firs…

A “puppet government” voted into power with 70%+ of the popular vote is just called “a government that disagrees with me.”

No post body was provided.

Re: Ask HN: What do Russians on HN think about this war?

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Post by TrapLord_Rhodo » Mon, Mar 07, 2022, 4:43 PM UTC

ethanbond wrote: post #41

throwaway_9357 wrote: post #32

I am disgusted at all 3 political sides involved. Most disgusted with EU/US, followed by Ukrainian government and finally by the Russian Government. A war does not happen for no reason. Putin is a known to be a rational actor. Obviously ordinary people do not want war. So you have to ask yourself, what events led to the war? What was done to prevent it? What is done to stop it now? Why am I disgusted with US/EU? Firs…

A “puppet government” voted into power with 70%+ of the popular vote is just called “a government that disagrees with me.”

not all voting is created equal.

There are plenty of examples of puppet governments with much higher ratings than 70%.

In reality, alot of governments are puppets to some higher power in this globalist economy we've found ourselves in.

Re: Ask HN: What do Russians on HN think about this war?

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Post by TrapLord_Rhodo » Mon, Mar 07, 2022, 4:45 PM UTC

MattGaiser wrote: post #38

throwaway_9357 wrote: post #32

I am disgusted at all 3 political sides involved. Most disgusted with EU/US, followed by Ukrainian government and finally by the Russian Government. A war does not happen for no reason. Putin is a known to be a rational actor. Obviously ordinary people do not want war. So you have to ask yourself, what events led to the war? What was done to prevent it? What is done to stop it now? Why am I disgusted with US/EU? Firs…

> Thirdly they are now actively encouraging war by sending weapons The alternative to sending weapons being Ukraine being brutally beaten rather than given a chance to defend itself. There is a reason that nearly every former Soviet occupied country fled to NATO.

"every former Soviet occupied country fled "

This is not really how history worked. It was NATO, the EU and the US deciding where the cards fell, who was placed in power and where the dividing lines were.

Re: Ask HN: What do Russians on HN think about this war?

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Post by MerelyMortal » Mon, Mar 07, 2022, 4:49 PM UTC

crownvic wrote: post #36

marius_k wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 30 Pentagon-funded biowarfare labs in Ukraine. That just does not make any sense to me. Why should those labs be somewhere in Ukraine rather than in US?

Well, I think it actually does make sense. Don't keep highly-virulent samples on your soil. But, obviously, any propaganda is propaganda. We can't prove or disprove it without any facts. I am also highly unsure about the bit in the Western news outlets that Russians were tried to damage Zap Nuclear Plant two days ago. Our news outlets state that plant has been under control from Feb 28th (probably true). This inciden…

> Well, I think it actually does make sense. Don't keep highly-virulent samples on your soil.

I don't think it makes sense. Why do something secret where you have less control or ability to monitor the surrounding area and the people? It's easier to for a surprise to occur, or for a development/leak not to be noticed.