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Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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It’s a wishful thinking, that everybody has some brain. There are enough flatearthers, antivaxers and wannabe putin’s buddies.

Silencing ideas that you do not agree with does not lead to an open society. Because guess what, the less popular ideas ends up being the right one sometimes. (In this case I agree that RT is likely propaganda, but knowing an argument you disagree with makes it easier to argue against people that make it.)

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Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Good. It’s important to be able to see all sides. Everybody with a brain will know to be very skeptical of any news source directly controlled by a government. Same is true for CGTN and other channels still on YT.

Right now it is worthless, anything on RT about the "special military operation" is 100% propaganda. It's just fun watching their presenters try to act normal.

It’s not worthless if you contrast it to the propaganda from CNN.

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The fact that pro putin’s propaganda channel comments are getting upvoted, while those against are downvoted says a lot about the type of people that use this forum. Russia today and sputnik constantly promote anti western values, politicians and groups and are a major source of misinformation yet some call banning these weapons of war censorship. Appalling.

HN has some of the most pro-putin comments I see anywhere. These are established accounts with years of history talking about tech, so not Russian bots or whatever.

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Quick question, most countries have laws on how media should work, like what can you put on public TV at what hours, how to mark certain content, rules that demand to always provide both sides perspective and punishments if you don't follow the rules, like removing your TV license. Did we allow this new media to just ignore our laws and publish one sided fabricated news? Maybe is finally the time to block stuff that…

> rules that demand to always provide both sides perspective

Not sure what country you're referring to, but there's certainly no such rule in the US, Australia, or the UK. In the US it would be unconstitutional.

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Good. It’s important to be able to see all sides. Everybody with a brain will know to be very skeptical of any news source directly controlled by a government. Same is true for CGTN and other channels still on YT.

It’s a wishful thinking, that everybody has some brain. There are enough flatearthers, antivaxers and wannabe putin’s buddies.

“When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.”

Easily my favourite George R. R. Martin quote. We discovered why free speech is important during the 17th century in the Enlightenment period. The scientific method itself owes its existence to free speech, and the ability for any person to disagree with any other person, regardless of their class, race, age, nationality, religion, or beliefs. The same goes for democracy. Take away the fundamental principle of free speech and you undermine science and democracy.

Are evil people going to attempt to convince the suggestible that they're not evil? Of course! Contrary to common sentiment, free speech has a cost. We pay this cost gladly so that we can live in relative prosperity.

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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Good. It's insane that the west is calling out censorship from Russia, but is doing the exact same thing itself.

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> you're an imbecile.

Ad Hominem.

The mainstream media has that history of spreading its own 'peacefully protesting propaganda' and other lies from the past decade or so.

Too many to list here. No different to RT.

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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The fact that pro putin’s propaganda channel comments are getting upvoted, while those against are downvoted says a lot about the type of people that use this forum. Russia today and sputnik constantly promote anti western values, politicians and groups and are a major source of misinformation yet some call banning these weapons of war censorship. Appalling.

It's literally censorship. It doesn't stop being censorship just because you want it censored.

Trying to redefine words like that insults your readers. People might consider your position a bit more if it's not obscured by your ego.

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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The fact that pro putin’s propaganda channel comments are getting upvoted, while those against are downvoted says a lot about the type of people that use this forum. Russia today and sputnik constantly promote anti western values, politicians and groups and are a major source of misinformation yet some call banning these weapons of war censorship. Appalling.

>promote anti western values, politicians and groups and are a major source of misinformation yet some call banning these weapons of war censorship

It's pretty damn ironic that in the same breath you accuse Russia of promoting anti-western values, you attack the classic western value of free speech by calling for the banning of news sources you disagree with.

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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I'm glad to see the alternative tech companies (Rumble, Truth Social) that promote truly free spread and competition of ideas, and that they are surviving (RIP Parlor). If Facebook, Youtube, etc. insist on restricting thought and discussion on their platforms, it will be to their detriment.

Re: Russian news channel RT to broadcast on Rumble after Big Tech curbs

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a wishful thinking, that everybody has some brain. There are enough flatearthers, antivaxers and wannabe putin’s buddies.

Silencing ideas that you do not agree with does not lead to an open society. Because guess what, the less popular ideas ends up being the right one sometimes. (In this case I agree that RT is likely propaganda, but knowing an argument you disagree with makes it easier to argue against people that make it.)

In theory I agree with you, but it's not like silencing 'ideas and argument you disagree with'

Look at this: https://www.rt.com/russia/551384-russia-ukraine-nuclear-fals...

>“The SBU and the militants of the Azov Battalion are planning to blow up the reactor and accuse the Russian Armed Forces of allegedly launching a missile attack on the experimental nuclear facility,”

This isn't a discussion in which people are arguing different opinions in good faith, it's straight up manipulation to excuse killing more people.

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