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My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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Post by MandieD »

onion2k wrote: post #318
Freak_NL wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two drinks each night versus one is quite a difference. It's double the amount of alcohol! Current recommendation from the Netherlands Nutrition Centre: > It is advisable to refrain from drinking alcohol, or to consume at most one glass a day. This advice applies equally to men and women. > Moderate consumption of alcohol at one glass a day may reduce the chance of getting certain chronic diseases, but also raises th…

Two drinks each night versus one is quite a difference. It's double the amount of alcohol! 2 bottles of 5% abv beer has a little less alcohol than 1 normal sized glass of 13% abv red wine.

Unless I've made an arithmetic error, those two American-sized beers (12oz each, 700ml of beer total) contain 35g of alcohol, and the American glass of wine (6oz, or 175ml) has 22.75g. Less alcohol than the two beers, but still more than most people should have on a daily basis.

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Post by Broken_Hippo »

me_me_mu_mu wrote: post #230
trutannus wrote: post #185

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>Having to work multiple jobs to keep a roof over your head, massive inflation, burnout from everything, covid spikes recently So the consequences of inept, corrupt, and broken governmental systems basically.

In many cases, people voted for it.

And in many cases, there wasn't a choice but to vote for it.

If you are struggling because your 40 hour workweek won't let you rent apartment and you live in the US, who are you going to vote for to fix it? Probably no one, since you realistically only have a bianary choice and neither side seems to have the will to fix this. (Both major parties in the US have had majorities, yet haven't helped folks. This has been a growing issue for years). Sure, you can run for office, but it'll take years before you are in a position to hopefully help - and even that is going to depend on you having other progressive folks in office to vote with you. Otherwise, you are simply "raising awareness", which does little to help folks pay for their food.

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Post by MandieD »

eointierney wrote: post #30
vedtopkar wrote: post #3

It’s honestly so bad. No matter how hard I try, I find myself re-downloading TikTok or Reddit (Apollo) every month and then wasting away all my free time for a week or two before re-deleting them out of disgust. I truly don’t know what the solution is. I would just get rid of my smartphone if life wasn’t quite inconvenient without it.

Read books I'm not joking, it's the best antidote to the thought-theft of "social media". Pick a subject in which you're interested, find a representively excellent text, and read. And then re-read, because unless you're a genius you won't absorb everything first time. Also it's wonderful to just curl up with a book and a cup of tea and let time pass you by as you ... learn the considered thought of others! This is c…

Nicholas Carr's "The Shallows" is easier going than I thought it would be, and I'm doing even better than a chapter at a sitting, and sometimes have to make myself put it down. I think he wrote it for people with diminished attention spans - and that's a compliment.

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Post by trizoza »

sodality2 wrote: post #38
herval wrote: post #33

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This could seriously be a good commercial product!

Hey, don't beat me to the punch! I thought about it right after posting too, that might have to be my next side project.

same, i want to get notified when released

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Post by yayr »

lrvick wrote: post #164
sodality2 wrote: post #24

I'm still young so maybe my mind hasn't matured enough to where I can combat this well. So I went heavy-handed - I have a button on my desk that when I press it, my server's DNS server (through which all my devices and router resolve) begins rejecting requests to reddit, instagram, twitter, hackernews, news.google.com, etc. For the next two hours, there is nothing I can do outside of SSH'ing through my mobile device…

I just ditched my smartphone entirely. Humanity survived until the 00s without them. You can too.

most tools are multi-use. A smart phone is currently the best "convenient world remote control" you can have. It is also the best "distraction toy" you can have...

...self-discipline does not come easy, especially if supply and demand are strongly in favor of distraction...

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Post by Nimitz14 »

janmarsal wrote: post #306

Thankfully my monkey brain is stronger than my lizard brain when it comes to things like infinite scroll, modals and other horrible UI features that nobody in their right mind should add to any website. Even just a couple of minutes of twitter usage makes me rage quit the whole website. Why do you pause my video when I scroll down it's just a politician speaking I don't need to see it only listen WHY YOU DO THIS? I'm…

> Why do you pause my video when I scroll down it's just a politician speaking I don't need to see it only listen WHY YOU DO THIS?

So you think the standard should be to keep a video playing even if one's scrolled past it? Are you insane?

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Post by mr_mitm »

janmarsal wrote: post #306

Thankfully my monkey brain is stronger than my lizard brain when it comes to things like infinite scroll, modals and other horrible UI features that nobody in their right mind should add to any website. Even just a couple of minutes of twitter usage makes me rage quit the whole website. Why do you pause my video when I scroll down it's just a politician speaking I don't need to see it only listen WHY YOU DO THIS? I'm…

This is something I also noticed a lot and find it equally infuriating. I can only guess why things are like this: you and most users on HN have at least a rudimentary understanding, often an expert understanding, of how a browser works under the hood. You know what a server is, what HTML is, what a browser history is, how cookies work, etc. But some manager wants to tap into the huge market of technically illiterate people who don't even know what a browser is, for whom a smart phone is nothing less than black magic. The manager tells his devs to just "make it work" for the most challenged user, to abstract away all these nuances of how a browser works. They use test groups to find out how my grandma expects a website to work and they basically make a smart phone converge towards one of those gizmos you saw on Star Trek, and then you get something like the Twitter interface.

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Post by hendrikrassmann »

I believe that in 100 years people will look back at our consumption of anti-social media the same way, we're looking back at doctors refusing to wash their hands before delivering.

Your body can deal with many things on it's own, but once there are cities with a million people in them, and railroads and steamboats zig-zagging between them, hygiene has to be a conscious effort.

Much same way, it's not your fault, if your mind can't handle all the shit the internet landscape throws at it.

One easy way I found is to have an older smartphone (S4 mini), without any cheap mobile internet access. (This works very well in Germany, as we have almost no free wifi). This way I only allow myself podcasts, which I chose to download before leaving the house.

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Post by Beltalowda »

janmarsal wrote: post #306

Thankfully my monkey brain is stronger than my lizard brain when it comes to things like infinite scroll, modals and other horrible UI features that nobody in their right mind should add to any website. Even just a couple of minutes of twitter usage makes me rage quit the whole website. Why do you pause my video when I scroll down it's just a politician speaking I don't need to see it only listen WHY YOU DO THIS? I'm…

> I'm also one of those people who randomly clicks and "paints" the text on every website I use. On Reddit this means that I manage to close the thread by accident all the time because someone thought it would be a good idea to open the threads in a modal that closes when you click outside of it.

I thought I was the only one with this habit hah!

IMHO this "close modal when clicking outside of it" is a UX pattern you need to be careful with in general, because it's easy to "miss" a click and accidentally close something, even without this habit. It's okay for some things that are truly temporary (i.e. delete confirmation dialogs and the like), but clearly not everything.

But hey, old.reddit.com still works, and is mostly okay.

> I don't click a cursed en.m.wikipedia link by accident

I got this extension to automatically redirect them: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/redirector/ – also useful for some other things like redirecting Reddit to old.reddit.com, and PostgreSQL documentation links to /current/ rather than /9.4/ and such which still frequently show up in search results.

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