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Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by tharne »

birken wrote: post #217
tharne wrote: post #202

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> Do you think the Omicron wave might have had more to do with the COVID restrictions than the VA governor's race? I don't. The case numbers in many, if not most areas, are still higher than they were during the delta wave in the Summer and Fall that led to the lockdowns and restrictions being implemented in the first place. If this were truly just about the data then you'd expect the restrictions to lift once the ca…

The peak of the delta wave was 160k cases/day, and the current case levels are ~52k/day. So given that, you think most areas are having higher case loads than the peak of the delta wave? You just aren't look at the data. There is also strong reason to believe that right after a huge wave is over you can expect a relatively smooth period of time to follow since so many people will have extra immunity from having recov…

> The people making these decisions are not idiots

Most of the world would beg to differ. Particularly in the West, this whole situation was handled abominably and was an embarrassment at all levels. Even most doctors will tell you the CDC bungled this whole thing mightily.

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Post by standardUser »

dylan604 wrote: post #384
standardUser wrote: post #286

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And arguably each and every one of those things should be legal.

That was my point. The people want, but the reps deny. It's not a representative gov't at all. I forget the term for it, but if you speak it in public to the sheeple that still want to believe in representative gov't, you become the bad guy in the conversation.

I disagree with that conclusion.

I think the problem is most people agree with those government restrictions, or at least did in the recent past. Laws and traditions have sticking power.

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Post by astrange »

voidfunc wrote: post #444
astrange wrote: post #368

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The MS employees I've met/interviewed were literally not allowed to read open source code or sample code on Q&A websites. Of course that was mostly 5+ years ago and I don't exactly ask them if their policies have changed.

Im on StackOverflow all the time and we use OSS code all over the place. Either they were pulling your leg or you badly misunderstood something they said.

I did not. Talk to some MacBU people.

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Post by smugma »

giantrobot wrote: post #280
nickff wrote: post #257

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> "While I have overtime included in my contract I still am able to reduce overtime (it is still being tracked to ensure compliance with local workers protection laws) if the project situation allows." The people talking about working long hours at Apple are getting paid commensurately. There's a reason why people work at FAANG companies despite the constant complaints.

> The people talking about working long hours at Apple are getting paid commensurately. Not really. Most divisions in SWE do stack ranking (unofficially). The top quintile (decile in some groups) gets a majority of compensation at review time. The bottom half is lucky to get a cost of living adjustment to their base pay. They likely will get no RSUs and little if any cash bonus. Despite the disparity in compensation…

This is not accurate. Managers have to make a specific argument to not give a minimum bonus/RSU. Generally, only very low performing people will not receive RSU’s.

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Post by mschuster91 »

tanseydavid wrote: post #234
mschuster91 wrote: post #122

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It's still about four airplanes worth of people crashing daily, to put it into perspective. Not to mention people under immunosuppression or legitimately unable to get vaccinated (e.g. allergies or immunodeficient) - these poor souls are effectively locked into their homes as a permanent jail.

>> these poor souls are effectively locked into their homes as a permanent jail. Why do you believe this to be true? Seems exaggerated to me.

I know a couple of people who are in exactly that predicament. They're scared shitless of catching the virus - and they need 24/7 at-home assistance, which means at least five people that could potentially catch and transmit the virus.

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Post by birdyrooster »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #475
birdyrooster wrote: post #301

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But it is a non-sequitur because Apple hasn't let any world changing tech developed by there employees to be spun out with no financial interest.

Yeah, and that's the idea behind the complaint. After getting their start thanks in part to HP's generosity, Apple's management tries to do everything possible to make sure the same thing doesn't happen at their company. It's hypocrisy in action.

Ooooo yes that makes sense

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Post by ericd »

saagarjha wrote: post #503
ericd wrote: post #362

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Apple’s cafe charges for food, and gives its interns very outdated machines. They’re much stingier than Google, or at least they were.

When I was an intern I got a new, latest model (for the time) MacBook Pro. At one point I also got a maxed-out trashcan Mac Pro too that they just had hanging around, which made WebKit builds far more pleasant.

Maybe I was on the wrong team :-) This was also before the trashcan debuted (Jobs was still CEO), so maybe things changed with time, new grads were still getting <$100k offers from eg Google at the time.

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Post by stevegore »

paulcole wrote: post #458
olliej wrote: post #240

I'm so glad that Covid cares about the economy. I also hate the obsession with in office work. I know for many people there's a social aspect to being in the office, but honestly I don't consider 4 hours of commuting each day to be worth the socializing aspect of in office work.

I hate the obsession with remote work. I commuted 10 minutes by bike and loved it. Remote work is hell for me. I’ll never pursue work at a remote company ever. I would happily take a pay cut to work in an office again.

I’m with you! Can’t wait to get some face to face time and actively turning down fully remote work.

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Post by stevegore »

Apocryphon wrote: post #547
paulcole wrote: post #544

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Good tips again, but I get quite a bit of exercise — 40-50 mile a week runner. > Why commit to going back into the open office? Because I like working in an open office with other people. The same as the pro-remote work crowd does not enjoy in an office. Neither is right or wrong — they are preferences. My plan is to find a company with employees who share my preferences.

It’s rare to find people who truly prefer the open office layout over having a personal office, or a cubicle, or a shared cube with one’s team. That’s a unique opinion that you’re free to have. For many, the depredations of the open office is a driving reason towards remote, but you uniquely do not have that hang-up. Enjoy!

I’m not sure it’s that rare. It’s just that the remote working evangelists are just so damn vocal about it.
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