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My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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This could seriously be a good commercial product!

I’m all for tangible, tactical solutions to problems that are currently enabled by software. For example, a phone tells the time, but it’s not always as straight forward as looking at a clock.

If only one could buy a clock, or watch.

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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The whole world is captured by dark UX. The pandemic situation forced people to stay home glued to the screens and rewired their brains to accept more intrusive media consumption. We don't know the negative effects of this process yet. I have lost communication with a lot of people, the information shock has made them completely strange to me. On a personal level, I got lucky. Due to my interest in photography, in early 2015 I developed the habit to leave my phone home and go for a walk only with a camera in my hand. It felt refreshing. The next step for me was to delete all unnecessary apps from my phone and stop the usage of texting apps. If I wanted to communicate with someone - I called. Somewhere in 2017, I realized that my brain needs a constant hit of fresh information and I have to combat this urge. Now I have offline data collection of carefully curated books, videos, and music. I have limited my "news" consumption to 20 minutes a day through RSS feeds, Twitter, and Hackernews are limited to 15 minutes a day. Internet is used only for work.

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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I have actually won against doomscroll. I used to spend 5-6 hours per day, and it peaked at 10 hours per day for some days of the year. I realized that doomscrolling is not only clever algorithms trying to get me hooked, but also a symptom of deeper problems that I had. And I realized that I was unhappy because I spent most of my doing things that I didn't like. I was deep frustrated. I did not want to spend my brain…

I've had some success with time blocking (which I usually do by Google searching for "30 min timer"). But I'm curious what you do about asynchronous interrupts? e.g. you block out your morning carefully, then 1h into things a guy you called three weeks ago to ask if he would estimate for painting your fence shows up and wants to spend 30min looking at the job asking questions. Now your time blocks are scattered to the wind. I find in my life that interrupts of this nature are quite frequent. Almost every day. (and: no you can't ask the painter dude to schedule a time next week. He'll never show up).

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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The concept of physical vs psychological dependence is kind of outdated, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EaiP31qWf0 I don't see anything wrong with talking about a video game or social media addiction. Of course it's nowhere near the same level of danger as a heroin addiction, but if it's counter-productive and there's the same kinds of behaviors involved, it can be a useful model. Just the same, you can be add…

> physical vs psychological dependence is kind of outdated I wouldn't say outdated, but I do agree it is 100% up for debate. Kurzgesagt did a really similar video[0] on addiction, but the basically walked it back from such a hard line stance in a correction/update video[1]. It's not so easy to tease apart the social vs the physical vs the pure mental. > Just the same, you can be addicted to coffee. Caffeine is a drug…

I'm assuming you mean schedule 1. Nobody is suggesting that coffee should be placed in that category.

I don't think there's a problem in society with people equating coffee or videogames with highly addictive drugs. It's more the opposite. People don't realize that addiction is something that could happen to them, or that they have an addiction to something. Alcoholics and drug addicts often live in denial, even when it has really damaging consequences in their life. So, if someone is addicted to something that's not widely considered addictive, it's even easier to deny that this is even a problem.

When the idea of an addiction to porn or videogames is brought up in an online discussion thread, people are quick to dismiss that this even is a real problem. Consider though that gambling addiction is very much real, and a lot of gambling takes places with machines that are effectively simple videogames. Addiction to video games isn't as devastating, because you're not losing huge sums of money, just time, but presumably, the addictive mechanism is more or less the same.

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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I'm still young so maybe my mind hasn't matured enough to where I can combat this well. So I went heavy-handed - I have a button on my desk that when I press it, my server's DNS server (through which all my devices and router resolve) begins rejecting requests to reddit, instagram, twitter, hackernews, news.google.com, etc. For the next two hours, there is nothing I can do outside of SSH'ing through my mobile device…

This could seriously be a good commercial product!

This exists as a commercial product (e.g. Freedom App), but you can just as easily add buttons and switches to a Home Assistant setup that does the same thing.

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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A few decades back nobody new, or cared, that smoking cigarettes was so bad for your health and everyone else around you.

You can wait a couple of decades to realize, or accept, that social media is bad for your health and everyone else around you.

Or you can quit now.

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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Since we are sharing our getting out of doom scrolling stories, I’ll share how I got off Reddit.

I realized that most of what I was reading on Reddit was fabricated outrage (since then they’ve added subs like “makes your blood boil” and “idiots in cars” - check them out if you feel like you are not outraged regularly enough)

I was the type of person who would sit on Reddit, be bored and type Reddit in the url bar.

So I decided to quit Reddit and used habitica for the task. It’s a gamification for to-do lists and forming habits. I added “visiting Reddit” as a minus 1, and every time I realized I was on Reddit I opened habitica and gave myself a minus 1.

Fictive internet points are quite powerful. I also started flossing this way (flossing at night, +1)

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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I’m curious what the generational divide is for this. I’m 57, love tech and enjoy the positive side of the internet in limited doses. But I find most social media boring. There is incredible and AMAZING art, accidental moments, serious discussion and fascinating analysis of the world to be found online. But without grounding myself in genuine experience in the stinky, cruel real world of human interaction, nature, an…

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Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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I'm still young so maybe my mind hasn't matured enough to where I can combat this well. So I went heavy-handed - I have a button on my desk that when I press it, my server's DNS server (through which all my devices and router resolve) begins rejecting requests to reddit, instagram, twitter, hackernews, news.google.com, etc. For the next two hours, there is nothing I can do outside of SSH'ing through my mobile device…

My /etc/hosts file on the machine I work on all day blocks 68k hosts 24/7. No social media sites at all except Twitter. No ads. Meanwhile, the Leechblock browser add-on stops me from using the few things I do otherwise (bits of Reddit, HN) allow between 09:00 and 17:00 which is not perfect but it's a start. Except ... I disable it a lot :(

> Except ... I disable it a lot :(

Not sure if you know, but there are advanced options to put various roadblocks in your way, such as disabling access to the options menu, or disabling access to the add-ons menu entirely.

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