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Reminder to not link directly to jwz.org from HN. Here's a sanitized link: (or right click above and open in incognito) https://web.archive.org/web/20220121083848/https://www.jwz.o...
Anyone know why they block HN referral requests?
The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues
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Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues
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>I read his blog sometimes and all too often come away feeling disgusted. The comments sections are all echo chambers and his dialog on certain sociopolitical issues (recently, vaccine passports) is nothing short of fascist. I used to read it frequently and enjoyed it, especially around the time he was setting up DNA lounge. Then after a while I started to notice this odd regression, as in, day by day it seemed to ge…
Could it be that the social isolation from covid is aggravating underlying mental health issues?
Completely speculation follows, but if this guy was a club owner, then he may have gone from a very active social life where people basically worship him to having financial troubles and living in isolation. I've seen people living the party lifestyle going from doing drugs with friends on the weekend to doing drugs alone to cope with loneliness.
Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues
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If you click through to JWZ from HN, you will see an NSFW picture with the following text underneath: > Hackers News: A DDos by finance obsessed man-children and brogrammers.
“A DDOS” (aka the “hug of death”) makes sense, but “man children and brogrammers”?
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I read his blog sometimes and all too often come away feeling disgusted. The comments sections are all echo chambers and his dialog on certain sociopolitical issues (recently, vaccine passports) is nothing short of fascist. I used to read it frequently and enjoyed it, especially around the time he was setting up DNA lounge. Then after a while I started to notice this odd regression, as in, day by day it seemed to ge…
Thanks for replying. My comment is getting downvoted (rightly so as it's off-topic politicking) but I wanted to have the conversation anyway since somebody else brought up jwz. That is the exact link I was thinking of. Viewpoints like these really do seem to be proliferating at a concerning rate.
Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues
#25The interesting thing about this is that YouTube is clearly trying to make it more difficult for non-official clients to stream video, as is evident from the required workaround described here: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/29326#issuecom... The legal defense of youtube-dl is premised on the idea that there's no circumvention occurring [0]. I 100% support youtube-dl and I want YouTube to stop interfer…
Can not reply with the entire situation but I would not be surprised if Google does not care enough to stop the project through other means but tries to reduce mindless zombie-bots from sucking up bandwidth all day long. If you have access to a fast connection you may notice even the web player is throttled sometimes.
Irrespective of that, the complaining party is the RIAA and not Google or YouTube in name.
> I 100% support youtube-dl and I want YouTube to stop interfering with it, but I also think we're being a little too cute when we pretend like ytdl isn't circumventing anything
I think the optics are a little different when it's a third party internet service as the medium, but 'we' are still arguing what constitutes fair-use of DRM protected physical media. :-(
Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues
#26The interesting thing about this is that YouTube is clearly trying to make it more difficult for non-official clients to stream video, as is evident from the required workaround described here: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/29326#issuecom... The legal defense of youtube-dl is premised on the idea that there's no circumvention occurring [0]. I 100% support youtube-dl and I want YouTube to stop interfer…
I thought the most recent legal argument was the 2019 hiQ Labs Inc v LinkedIn Corp[0], in which the Ninth Circuit found web scraping to be legal, and forbid LinkedIn from blocking web scrapers. The exact same argument can be made for accessing YouTube via youtube-dl. The article does indicate that the decision in hiQ v LinkedIn was vacated by SCOTUS following the 2021 Van Buren v United States [0], to be retried by t…
> ... it's the webmaster's own responsibility to "just not serve" if they don't want it to be served, and their failure to implement their own desires as software doesn't suddenly give them carte blanche to claim whatever they want was breaking the law. ... The fact that Microsoft is too lazy to implement a solution that effectively implements their desired policy isn't material to what the actually implemented policy enables.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you click through to JWZ from HN, you will see an NSFW picture with the following text underneath: > Hackers News: A DDos by finance obsessed man-children and brogrammers.
“A DDOS” (aka the “hug of death”) makes sense, but “man children and brogrammers”?
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
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>I read his blog sometimes and all too often come away feeling disgusted. The comments sections are all echo chambers and his dialog on certain sociopolitical issues (recently, vaccine passports) is nothing short of fascist. I used to read it frequently and enjoyed it, especially around the time he was setting up DNA lounge. Then after a while I started to notice this odd regression, as in, day by day it seemed to ge…
Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues
#29With luck it will take them a few more years to figure out that yt-dlp and other forks with derivative names exist.
Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues
#30The interesting thing about this is that YouTube is clearly trying to make it more difficult for non-official clients to stream video, as is evident from the required workaround described here: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/29326#issuecom... The legal defense of youtube-dl is premised on the idea that there's no circumvention occurring [0]. I 100% support youtube-dl and I want YouTube to stop interfer…
I thought the most recent legal argument was the 2019 hiQ Labs Inc v LinkedIn Corp[0], in which the Ninth Circuit found web scraping to be legal, and forbid LinkedIn from blocking web scrapers. The exact same argument can be made for accessing YouTube via youtube-dl. The article does indicate that the decision in hiQ v LinkedIn was vacated by SCOTUS following the 2021 Van Buren v United States [0], to be retried by t…