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My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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The key to curb bad habits is to create friction, and doing so well in advance. When you're exhausted and you're out of will, you're not gonna take much action to avoid quick pleasures. As it pertains to websites and app, here are a bunch of techniques for creating friction: - iOS and Android both have screen time features to show you a banner when you've used an app for longer than a set time. This is a good soft bl…

This right here.

I blocked reddit on my home network. I can easily use a VPN to bypass this but the friction broke the habit. Next up is Hacker News

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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Lately I've become convinced that video games and social media are in the same class as drugs and alcohol. They're a pretty fun way to kill time, but some people are predisposed to doing too much, and too much is dangerous. Also similar to drugs/alcohol: it seems to affect some people more than others. I know people who can check FB/TikTok for a couple minutes and then they're done, and I also know people who continu…

The question is if these vectors of addiction are compounding or if it always affects people who were prone towards addiction anyway. My hope is the latter. Not that having a population of 10%(?) addictions isn't tragic, but it's better than eventually having a population of 90% addicts because we eventually offer personally tailored addictive products at scale.

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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A small push button attached to a Raspberry Pi. It runs a bash script that sends the network request to my AdGuard Home server, adding a list of domains to the blocklist. After two hours, it undoes the changes. I usually review the DNS requests in the two hours after, to look for other time-suckers, and have since added every single non-productivity-related website to the blocklist. Apparently I compulsively check th…

A raspberry pi just for a button??

If it was sitting in drawer not doing anything and now it is doing this, then it's still better than being in the drawer.

Plus, what else that is small form factor and can execute ssh scripts when triggered by a smashable button are there?

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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An exception: I find Duck Duck Go's infinite scroll quite pleasant, and find paginated results quite cumbersome. Elsewhere it's just annoying. Especially when a misclick makes you lose the position. Dilbert's website is a good example of this. For Reddit or Twitter I don't know, I read them using libreddit and nitter when I occasionally land on them from a link or a search result. TikTok and Facebook I have never tri…

Point. I should qualify that to "non-terminating infinite scroll." E.g. DDG is likely neither hoping nor expecting their users to infinitely scroll through search results all day, without clicking anything. Also, where does DDG have infinite scroll? I just checked (it's my default) and Firefox on Android shows a "More Results" footer button.

Oh, you are right, it's not actually infinite scroll, you have to click on "More Results" so Duck Duck Go loads more results in the page! My mistake.

But yes, even if they did so, this is the important bit:

> DDG is likely neither hoping nor expecting their users to infinitely scroll through search results all day, without clicking anything.

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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I’m curious what the generational divide is for this. I’m 57, love tech and enjoy the positive side of the internet in limited doses. But I find most social media boring. There is incredible and AMAZING art, accidental moments, serious discussion and fascinating analysis of the world to be found online. But without grounding myself in genuine experience in the stinky, cruel real world of human interaction, nature, an…

I think it's one of those nature/nurture things.

Lizards brain conditioned to infinite scroll crave it more. If you grew up without it and have avoided training that part of the mind, then it's easier to avoid getting hooked.

Humans seem to forget that we are always in the process of making ourselves. By choosing how we spend our time and effort today we are choosing the kinds of things we find more rewarding tomorrow.

I very much worry about people who spend all their time tuned to social media, which seems to have become an arms race to figure out how to become the most addictive form. TikTok is currently winning - somehow sucking hours and hours of people's lives away, be constantly fed a steady stream of just the right kinds of videos to make the lizard brain happy.

It's cruel really. To take our human desire to connect and socialize and monetize it in such a shallow and empty way.

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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I've removed everything with this from my life. Everyone knows how bad it is now, there's no excuse.

> Everyone knows how bad it is now, there's no excuse. I disagree. Ask any 20-30 year old and I don't think many will say that TikTok, Instagram, etc is "harmful to your health". Maybe a "bit addictive", maybe a few people who say "I have a problem with it". But never "I know this is very harmful for my attention span, my mental health, etc".

Ask any person in 1950 and I don’t think any will say that cigarettes are harmful. Maybe a ‘bit addictive’…

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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This could seriously be a good commercial product!

Hey, don't beat me to the punch! I thought about it right after posting too, that might have to be my next side project.

+1 on buying this, time for a Kickstarter!

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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If you must use Reddit, set up an account that's unsubscribed from all subreddits. Then only add small, niche subreddits and never any of the default or popular subreddits. At worst, you'll get a homepage that updates with new content maybe once or twice a day, drastically reducing the chance of scrolling your free time away. It's preferable to just not use it at all if you can, though.

I initially started using the multireddit feature, to section off specific but related interests. It can also be used to build a focused feed.

Are you able to set a multireddit as the homepage, or do you have to visit specific URLs to see the mutlireddits?

Re: My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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I would love to do this, but years of mindlessly browsing social media has seriously shortened my attention span. I used to read books all the time. I remember staying up late as a kid just to read the new Harry Potter book. Nowadays I pick up a book, read a few pages, then immediately lose interest and go do something else. Anybody know how to get back into reading?

I've had some luck by going back to "simpler" books for a while - page-turner scifi, bestsellers, YA literature. For a while I only read things that really grabbed my attention, and I think that is gradually re-training my brain. I'm not back to being as avid of a reader yet, but I'm optimistic I'll get there. I'm reading more now than I have in a few years.

Read about the sentient beercan, it's an amusing page turner.
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