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Re: Modern Fascism Looks Like

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For the Record: Kamil Galeev works at the Woodrow Wilson Center, a DC based think tank. His Ukraine-War threads on twitter are informative, but to be taken with a grain of salt. And I think in the case of "To put it simply, [Russia]'s going full fascist." with a couple of grains more.

I don't follow much politics but it always served me well to take anyone associated with Kissinger with a grain of salt.

Re: Modern Fascism Looks Like

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I think this thread actually highlights how the modern internet can "hack" normal human perception due to the way it makes it very difficult to see how much support an idea/position actually has. I mean, it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that there is some portion, even a sizable portion, of the Russian populace that supports the invasion of Ukraine. But, suppose the support is on the order of 5-10% (I have no…

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Re: Modern Fascism Looks Like

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I think this thread actually highlights how the modern internet can "hack" normal human perception due to the way it makes it very difficult to see how much support an idea/position actually has. I mean, it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that there is some portion, even a sizable portion, of the Russian populace that supports the invasion of Ukraine. But, suppose the support is on the order of 5-10% (I have no…

Once we had things we called newspapers. It was similar to what you describe. It was possible to read an entire newspaper and have it tell you about just a single facet of a multi-faceted reality.

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Man, France also have neo-Nazi batallions, we actually have articles written on this like every two years, with followup article saying nothing was done and the problem is worse (i think one divison was disolved, because they were a bit too obvious on social media). I'm pretty sure the US does too. Sadly, neo nazis are drawn to the army and as the recruiting is hard in the West, they are easily accepted. If you condemn a country as fascist because it has a high percentage of fascist in its army, all the power to you, my anarchist side would even agree, standings armies are a fascist tool. But my pragmatic side understand that standing armies are necessary, and even positive at least in the short to medium term.

The Ukrainians did not create song about their invasion, they did not force children to declare their support to an invading army. Also, i've seen a lot of reference to Makhno recently, i'm pretty sure any Neonazi would have had issues with that (well, cultured fascists would have)(yeah, nevermind, maybe they wouldn't then).

Re: Modern Fascism Looks Like

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For the Record: Kamil Galeev works at the Woodrow Wilson Center, a DC based think tank. His Ukraine-War threads on twitter are informative, but to be taken with a grain of salt. And I think in the case of "To put it simply, [Russia]'s going full fascist." with a couple of grains more.

The thread is very long, it covers a lot more than just "going full fascist".

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So what's the play? Jewish people and neo-Nazis collaborating to gain power? And then later turn on each other? The Wikipedia article on them says there are Jewish people serving in Azov Battalion.

If Azov are neo-Nazis, who is their enemy? Obviously the Islamic Chechen military who have been deployed against them but other than that, who? Chechnya isn't on their border. Other Slavs? Where are the non-white people they are fighting?

Could it be that the Nazi emblems were adopted more for historical and anti-Russian sentiment? I honestly can't make much sense of it all. They may be National Socialists, but they seem pretty okay allying closely with Jews and there are few non-white people to fight.

So one battalion are extreme nationalists and definitely pretty fucked up. That hardly condemns the whole country. And in a war for survival, anyone would let them fight. I'm very open to changing my mind about any of this but I fail to see the pressing issue right now.

Re: Modern Fascism Looks Like

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For the Record: Kamil Galeev works at the Woodrow Wilson Center, a DC based think tank. His Ukraine-War threads on twitter are informative, but to be taken with a grain of salt. And I think in the case of "To put it simply, [Russia]'s going full fascist." with a couple of grains more.

What's the deal with the Woodrow Wilson Center? It seems to have good credentials, albeit connected to the US government. Are there other examples of it producing obvious propaganda?

Re: Modern Fascism Looks Like

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Why is author attacking Durov? Not a good look.

I think it's the lack of transparency, claims that Telegram is the most secure messenger despite the fact that e2e encryption is off by default and therefore hardly used, unclear source of funds used to run the whole operation.

There are few scandals from his past that draw at least a controversial picture of Durov's morals (throwing paper money from the top of the building in the center of the city, working quietly with the FSB during the protest, deleting messages from the Telegram account of his opponent who accused his brother in firing him over a girl, and so on). He persistently keeps throwing out loosely supported accusations towards the rival messengers like Signal, Whatsapp and so on.

There was a great article in The Wired lately and following discussion on Hacker News [0]

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30267787

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