Just in general look at those cookie consent dialogs at any site living on advertising or using it and really see the insanity of number of partners... That should show that we might actually need to burn it all down...
Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
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Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
#52Protip: if user privacy is a concern to you, then not supporting these companies (by handing them your data) is a good place to start.
Well in this case data is collected and sent to various third-parties even without you willingly entering any data on the website manually.
Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is it and is how the online advertising industry has worked for over 25 years. In its simplest form the pixel is used to attribute an ad view/click to a conversion event. At the beginning of the online ad industry that’s all it did, advertisers for the first time had the ability to directly, in real time, see the effectiveness of their ads. The economic value and GDP generated due to this innovation is immeasura…
This is also why even Apple and Mozilla (companies with a vested interest in harming the ad ecosystem) are pushing for various privacy-preserving ad attribution technologies. Nobody objects to UberEats knowing that their Tiktok ads are working or not - they object to Tiktok cross-referencing the data from UberEats and everywhere else to build an interest profile on them.
Just FYI, Mozilla's commitment to privacy is smoke and mirrors. You need to install uBlock Origin and opt-out of Mozilla's telemetry and similar BS to get any meaningful privacy in Firefox.
Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wouldn't be a bad idea to be honest If they're acting so antagonistically against GDPR maybe , for some of the most egregious cases, throwing some people in jail will do the trick I mean, whoever does the whole song and dance for rejecting cookies that shows a loading gif and takes a while does deserve it And if you think I'm exaggerating, guess who has the best info now on the Ukraine war? Tiktok.
> If they're acting so antagonistically against GDPR maybe throwing some people in jail will do the trick This is how you get a legal code like America's, where a cop and prosecutor can put almost anyone in jail with the flimsiest excuse. I understand the impulse. But the solution to bad enforcement isn't ratcheting up penalties. It's increasing enforcement.
You are correct.
Usually what I find is that the American companies/people usually try to follow the "bare" letter of the law, where Europeans need to follow the spirit, as this is how it is "usually" enforced.
And while the former might let you get away with "one weird trick" the latter usually leaves more margin to interpretation which can be both a blessing and a curse.
Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
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>people who don’t know what’s happening can’t make informed choices. it's really distasteful how privacy advocates always assume that everybody who doesn't feel the same way they do is uninformed. the average person has a basic understanding that companies keep track of them online. everybody who's spent more than five minutes online without an adblocker understands retargeting. it's not that people don't understand,…
Informed or not, they were not allowed to give consent. No problem with people consenting to be tracked.
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Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
#56The amount of tracking on this page is astounding. Just from the screenshot, I count 9 trackers: Uber Eats' own analytics sc-static.net (Snapchat? whois doesn't reveal anything.) Google Tag Manager Facebook Connect Yahoo TikTok ispot.tv (Some sort of ad management solution.) Hotjar (Behavioural analytics.) Bing
This is honestly very few considering how many different places Uber Eats probably advertises on.
I work on helping new Shopify merchants get more early sales, and ads are super important for that to happen. Open up any small and growing e-commerce store and you'll see at least this many.
Without ads, you don't find these small businesses, and all consumers just go to Amazon, or other large established marketplaces.
Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is also why even Apple and Mozilla (companies with a vested interest in harming the ad ecosystem) are pushing for various privacy-preserving ad attribution technologies. Nobody objects to UberEats knowing that their Tiktok ads are working or not - they object to Tiktok cross-referencing the data from UberEats and everywhere else to build an interest profile on them.
Just FYI, Mozilla's commitment to privacy is smoke and mirrors. You need to install uBlock Origin and opt-out of Mozilla's telemetry and similar BS to get any meaningful privacy in Firefox.
How does including telemetry for a product make a commitment to privacy from unrelated companies' tracking "smoke and mirrors"? There's a difference between the privacy I expect from a direct service provider and from various random agents seeking to build a profile on me.
Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
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at least hotjar respects do-not-track settings
DNT is not the solution though. DNT status is not readable by JS (by design), so DNT cannot be implemented in the client. So all tracking calls are still made over the network. It is then up to the server processing those calls to drop them if the DNT header is present. Thus, there is no way for a user to verify that DNT is actually honored. Hotjar is probably the only one (claiming to be) honoring DNT consistently.…
That's not true. There's Navigator.doNotTrack[0]. It works, but it's deprecated and I'm not sure what the replacement is.
[0]: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Navigator/d...
Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
>people who don’t know what’s happening can’t make informed choices. it's really distasteful how privacy advocates always assume that everybody who doesn't feel the same way they do is uninformed. the average person has a basic understanding that companies keep track of them online. everybody who's spent more than five minutes online without an adblocker understands retargeting. it's not that people don't understand,…
Informed or not, they were not allowed to give consent. No problem with people consenting to be tracked.
People give consent all the time when it is still bad for them. It is a moral question in the end, the same way, we can say people consent to selling their body for sex, but have made it illegal, or say people consent to gambling knowing the odds put them at a disadvantage every single bet, or how people consent to credit card debt at insane rates not knowing just how much they are being taken advantage of. Consent matters, but in the end it's what we all believe should be tolerated from an ethical standpoint. Personally I see many issues with data collection and data sharing, even if not malicious, but that give the opportunity to be abused by others with a grudge or agenda I might not support. Not just banking information, but location data, purchasing history, and more. I'm not saying every has enemies out there but if anyone wanted to cause harm with that information they could.
Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
#60As someone that has spent a sizable amount of my career in ad products, the outrage here is kind of (sadly) funny. A conversion pixel? Hah, if you only had an idea of what the Facebook data faucet looked like in 2007-2017, your hairs would stand. Pretty sure they were breaking all kinds of PII laws.
What happened in 2017?