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Re: Write your app in HTML5, upload it and get back app-store ready apps

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I may be ignorant, but to write a complex app, don't you need HTML5 AND a mobile javascript framework like JQuery Mobile and Sencha? Or does HTML5 handle that too? If it does require a Javascript framework, that's when the quality deteoriates... I think imitating the look and feel of native apps is easy. Making the performance smooth on the other hand is hard.

HTML5 is JavaScript. Without JavaScript, HTML5 is just a few semantic HTML tags (like header and section) and a few extra form input attributes (like required and placeholder). As far as JavaScript frameworks go, you could use Sencha or jQuery Mobile or one of the other few dozen frameworks out there --- or you could roll your own. I've been doing mobile web development for about a year now. I've done both PhoneGap a…

I can't see why anybody would actually use jQuery Mobile and Sencha for web app development. I've tried them last week and they were impressive on a desktop browser. On a mobile device, not so much. Both jQuery Mobile and Sencha feel slow, very slow. The animations are choppy. Response times on clicks are way too long. Everything flickers like mad. Focus borders are drawn at all the wrong places. I can actually feel that it's a web app trying too hard to be a native app. On my Android phone it's even slower than on my iPad 1.

I'm not blaming jQuery Mobile or Sencha. I think mobile browsers are just not ready for delivering a smooth UI experience that's up to par with native apps.

Re: Write your app in HTML5, upload it and get back app-store ready apps

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Great service - I've used it to build a modest application or two for Android and iOS. One caveat: Phonegap plugins that include native components (for example, the Facebook plugin) can't be included in apps built with Phonegap Build (yet).

What plugins have you been using? Last time I look at pg, the plugins I found were alpha quality or just abandoned. I'd love to hear what's current. Thanks.

Re: Write your app in HTML5, upload it and get back app-store ready apps

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Upload your website, download a native app. What is wrong with this picture? If you can build your app as a web app and don't require hardware access then I'd think twice whether a native app is required.

HTML+CSS+JS certainly implies a website, but it doesnt have to be.

We built a prototype mobile game in two weeks using PhoneGap and we were able to deploy to Android effortlessly. The visibility of the app store gave us (zero marketing, free app) brought in 2k downloads in two days.

That kind of free distribution is hard to replicate on the open web.

Re: Write your app in HTML5, upload it and get back app-store ready apps

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https://build.phonegap.com/docs/ios-builds "Since PhoneGap Build uses Apple's standard development process to build applications, you will need to sign up for their developer program to build iOS applications on PhoneGap Build. You will also need a Mac to configure your certificate and provisioning profile." :(

It's "just" a code generation tool

Re: Write your app in HTML5, upload it and get back app-store ready apps

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

HTML5 is JavaScript. Without JavaScript, HTML5 is just a few semantic HTML tags (like header and section) and a few extra form input attributes (like required and placeholder). As far as JavaScript frameworks go, you could use Sencha or jQuery Mobile or one of the other few dozen frameworks out there --- or you could roll your own. I've been doing mobile web development for about a year now. I've done both PhoneGap a…

I can't see why anybody would actually use jQuery Mobile and Sencha for web app development. I've tried them last week and they were impressive on a desktop browser. On a mobile device, not so much. Both jQuery Mobile and Sencha feel slow, very slow. The animations are choppy. Response times on clicks are way too long. Everything flickers like mad. Focus borders are drawn at all the wrong places. I can actually feel…

I agree somewhat, and would add that I wish jQuery Mobile would focus more on being a solid compatible framework for mobile 'websites' than in emulating the features/transitions of a native app.

Re: Write your app in HTML5, upload it and get back app-store ready apps

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Upload your website, download a native app. What is wrong with this picture? If you can build your app as a web app and don't require hardware access then I'd think twice whether a native app is required.

There are plenty of good reasons to write apps this way, not the least of which being access to the app store. (Unless you've figured out a way to charge $1.99 for access to a mobile web site, in which case, God bless.)

Re: Write your app in HTML5, upload it and get back app-store ready apps

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I think PhoneGap is doing great work, they're obviously getting better, and I don't mean to diminish what others have poured so much effort into. But, are there any successful apps made with PhoneGap? Writing apps in HTML5 is constantly hyped, but there isn't a single HTML app out of the dozens on my iPhone except Netflix. PhoneGap's app gallery doesn't have a single app I've heard of. (The Netflix app isn't too plea…

> But, are there any successful apps made with PhoneGap?

Define successful. Because, let's be honest, if I need an application for my company that will be used internally, does it matter if you haven't heard about it? Don't get caught look at this from just one point of view.

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