Is there an extreme to this or is it all going to pass public judgement?
Spotify made a cowardly choice: to submit to the Kremlin
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Re: Spotify made a cowardly choice: to submit to the Kremlin
#12Russia is known to murder dissidents. For Spotify leaders to make a stand from the safety of the US and paint a target on the backs of their Russian employees would be the cowardly option. If the employees their want to choose on their own to take a stand that's up to them, but it's not a choice that Spotify should make for them.
Your point of view might have some merit to it if there a basis in fact. Do you dispute the author's claim "On Wednesday night [March 2], Spotify announced that it is closing its Moscow office"?
Re: Spotify made a cowardly choice: to submit to the Kremlin
#13This doesn’t seem any more cowardly than YouTube’s decision to ban RT. Hard to claim to be on the side of free speech when American tech companies are censoring right and left.
Re: Spotify made a cowardly choice: to submit to the Kremlin
#14This doesn’t seem any more cowardly than YouTube’s decision to ban RT. Hard to claim to be on the side of free speech when American tech companies are censoring right and left.
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#16To be honest, companies making emotional decisions is more concerning to me. It is reasonable and to be encouraged if businesses want to be a moral-less dumb pipe. Spotify is not equipped to make geopolitical judgements about what is and isn't a just war or propaganda & can achieve nothing against the Russian military. If they just stick to following the law that is fine. If something is required of them then the military leadership can ask them to do it.
Re: Spotify made a cowardly choice: to submit to the Kremlin
#17> Spotify had opened a representative office in Moscow. [...] Why? Seemingly just to get a bit closer to the treasuries of the region’s greatest kleptocrats. or maybe it's easier to hire talent in Moscow (a metropolis of 17M) than Kyiv (3M), sheesh
Re: Spotify made a cowardly choice: to submit to the Kremlin
#18> Spotify had opened a representative office in Moscow. [...] Why? Seemingly just to get a bit closer to the treasuries of the region’s greatest kleptocrats. or maybe it's easier to hire talent in Moscow (a metropolis of 17M) than Kyiv (3M), sheesh
Why write such a dismissive comment when that’s not the point at all?
Re: Spotify made a cowardly choice: to submit to the Kremlin
#19Okay, so the author's idea of bravery is to pull a meaningless PR stunt that does nothing for Russians but instead saves the face of the company's CEO in the eyes of anglosphere online bloggers? For once an actual instance of behavior where the overused 'virtue signaling' phrase makes sense.
The smart move for companies is to comply with these laws to a superficial extent while silently keeping as much dissident content online as possible and staying off the radar of regulators.
Re: Spotify made a cowardly choice: to submit to the Kremlin
#20>> a better alternative would have been to keep operating, while declaring openly that their media machine will be available for the dissidents in Russia
>> At an absolute minimum, Spotify could have let its Russian users face recommended playlists on the theme of “peace”.
I remember when Google initially came into conflict with China's censorship. The government wanted them to conform to the chinese way, censoring bad content on their own initiative without receiving an explicit list. A particular bugbear was returning search results that link to sites blocked by the great firewall. ATT, Google's "don't be evil" was still standing as a slogan. Early 2000s internet naivety still had some punch. China's attempt to censor the internet seemed foolish and doomed.
Anyway Google eventually tucked tail and learned that they cannot conflict with the CCP and come away with a win.
A decade later and we're knee deep in a clunky, controversial and blunt anti-misinformation vs free speech balance. Try that in a war zone.
Realistically, I think companies have two choices... more or less. They can stay or they can go. Multinational companies are not emissaries of anything but economics. We shouldn't expect them to be independent participants in international conflicts.
Luckily, Spotify's podcast strategy has not succeeded yet. Most podcasts are still distributed as podcasts, via RSS. They're one of the most free forms of online media. Spotify is trying to build a walled garden around this last piece of wilderness. The best thing spotify can do to enable free media in wartime is to just go away.