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Bolivia is awash with contraband cars from Japan

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Re: Bolivia is awash with contraband cars from Japan

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This is a good example where import controls are obviously silly. Is Bolivia (pop 11M) going to have a domestic car industry? Does it make any sense to ship the raw materials for building a car 4000 meters up in the Andes instead of just shipping the car?

Bolivia isn't entirely 4000 meters up in the Andes, and two thirds of it aren't in the Andes at all; the eastern lowlands are as low as 70 meters above sea level. They have a navigable river to the Pacific (the río Paraguay); you could ship in barges full of iron ore to Puerto Suárez. It would be a longer trip than crossing the Great Lakes to River Rouge, but it wouldn't involve any costly overland shipping at all. Moreover, it has very substantial domestic ore resources, though those do require overland shipping if not smelted at the mine*, and they are partly in the Andes.

I don't know much about Bolivia, but as I understand it, Bolivia's lack of domestic industry isn't due to its population or its lack of natural resources; it's caused by political factors such as profound social division, a resulting nonstop social struggle (including a socialist revolution in 01952), foreign subversion by agents like Che Guevara and the US CIA and DEA, a history of poverty rooted in Spanish colonialism and apartheid, counterproductive economic policies like the auto import tariff (directed toward the comprehensively failed experiment of import-substitution industrialization), and insufficient capitalism in general. Historically it also suffered from widespread illiteracy, but that is no longer a problem. Like, for example, Montana, it almost totally lacks research universities.

Normally I hesitate to attribute poverty and oppression to conspiracy theories like "CIA subversion", but in the case of Bolivia, the evidence seems indisputable that the CIA were key supporters of the ultra-right-wing military dictatorship in the 01960s and the 01971 coup, as well as operating their own military operations independently inside Bolivia.

The economic situation improved significantly during the Morales years.

Hopefully lccarrasco or someone can correct me if I got this wrong.

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* As far as I know, they aren't currently smelting at the mines, but then again, they aren't currently mining iron either.

Re: Bolivia is awash with contraband cars from Japan

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I thought Bolivia drives on the right? It doesn't make sense to have right hand drive cars on the roads in a country that drives on the right?

There are some places where the wheel and driving side don't match what's usually expected. Like Vladivostok, Russia, where cars drive right but due to its proximity to Japan some cars have the wheel on the right. Or the U.S. Virgin Islands, which drives left, but most cars are U.S. imports and have the wheel on the left.

Or USPS vehicles in mainland USA which have the steering column on the right!

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I’m more interested in the picture - it appears to be a merchant with toy cars and … stacks of toy? counterfeit? Money?

They're used as gifts for abundance in our festival called Alasitas, you can read more about it in the wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alasitas

I'd always wondered about this but never thought to ask!

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Answered in the article > Mechanics fix suspension wrecked by the drive over the mountains from Chile; others move steering wheels from right to left.

Moving a steering wheel seems like it would be more trouble than it’s worth, but I’ve not actually taken apart a Japanese car to see if the holes and mounting spots are all there.

These are countries where parts are expensive and labor is dirt cheap. The economics (of everything) work out vastly differently. It’s hard to imagine how different life is in countries like that without either living there or using a time machine.

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Answered in the article > Mechanics fix suspension wrecked by the drive over the mountains from Chile; others move steering wheels from right to left.

Moving a steering wheel seems like it would be more trouble than it’s worth, but I’ve not actually taken apart a Japanese car to see if the holes and mounting spots are all there.

pretty much every modern car was designed with both versions in mind. many cheaper cars have agnostic dashboards that don't take much to convert. and any globally distributed model is going to at least have a secondhand market where the parts for conversion are readily available. for some popular models where OEM dashes are hard to come by, there are full dashboard kits produced by third parties.

Re: Bolivia is awash with contraband cars from Japan

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I wish I had a good source, but from what I've seen firsthand (well, by following the Japanese car community and having friends in it) there's a pretty large export market for stolen cars. Either the full car is exported or people literally chop off things like front bumpers for popular cars, remove special limited parts, etc.

There's probably some Japanese car website with actual numbers, but it can be unnerving when some of these are caught, and more so when I see new ones being reported.

one relevant news article: https://jalopnik.com/facebook-group-catches-american-shop-th...

Re: Bolivia is awash with contraband cars from Japan

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Countries like bolivia, and other countries that slap very large (>50%) import duties on foreign-made cars, have a very funny side-effect.

Every 4 years it seems there is a model or brand that is cool, and that every elite seems to be driving. Is that the cool new car? The "in" brand. No. The cause is simple. Its 101 economics:

Import duties are usually managed on a country-by-country basis. Politicians will manage capital flight ("trade imbalance") by seeking higher levies on heavy industrial goods that are popular, like cars. Those levies lead to a situation where everyone seems to be driving the exact same brand new cars (and usually 1 particular make). However, its not that the brand is particularly popular, its only that the car maker offers the best value net of import duties, plus, importers are very wary of bringing cars with huge import fees.

So, the newer cars are always a few specific never-seen brands or makes. Then there are others driving slightly-older Y brand cars, far more generic. The oldest cars seem to have a lot of diversity and would resemble your average US used car sales lot.

The evolution of the duties can then be described as follows: 1) free market: very low cost to import any car 2) Some tough -but not insane- duties (particularly on US new cars). 3) Restriction / heavy levies on used car imports. 3) Very heavy import duties on most western new cars (vs Indian or Chinese makes).

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You might have better luck searching for “cumbia chutero”. > I imagine it as some Miami Bass hybrid with Pan Flute leads and rapped blues lyrics. It’s mostly cumbia with chutero-related lyrics, similar to Mexican narcocorridos.

Thanks for the recommendation! But all I'm getting is covers of Chutero yo soy by different bands?

I guess you’re right. “Chutero yo soy” seems to be kind of a chutero anthem, but digging a bit deeper in some of the YouTube channels I found a few more songs:

El chutero: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSfzIS1J6Xs

El chutero (a different one): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoIz7SM8rUI

Hombre de riesgo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIYmC_C5-aw

Re: Bolivia is awash with contraband cars from Japan

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Nation Geographic's Trafficked has a fascinating episode on the stolen car market. The episode follows cars that are shipped out of the port of New Jersey to Ghana and documents just how organized the operations are.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/tv/shows/trafficked-with-...

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Thanks for the recommendation! But all I'm getting is covers of Chutero yo soy by different bands?

I guess you’re right. “Chutero yo soy” seems to be kind of a chutero anthem, but digging a bit deeper in some of the YouTube channels I found a few more songs: El chutero: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSfzIS1J6Xs El chutero (a different one): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoIz7SM8rUI Hombre de riesgo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIYmC_C5-aw

Thanks! Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I find this stuff a lot more listenable than Wachiturros or even Damas Gratis.
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