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Re: AI Model Detects Mental Disorders Based on Web Posts

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Post by sdoering »

pc86 wrote: post #37
sdoering wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. I happily include my personal site with quite some controversial articles (being my opinion at that time) on it in my resume. It works as a great filter for companies I wouldn't want to work for.

This works great for competent, experienced software engineers who are in extremely high demand right now. To be blunt, most people are not that valuable economically to a company, and so have to fight a lot more to get a lot less. Most people would find a hard time getting work with any broadly controversial topics associated with them. There's also the argument that software engineers may not always be in such high…

I am in demand now as a data analyst. But I did that already in my first jobs after college.

I was able to get by on working as a bartender while looking for a job. I had fun doing it and little cost of living.

Why should I have sacrificed my mental health or my happiness for a job working for assholes? (pardon my language)

Re: AI Model Detects Mental Disorders Based on Web Posts

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Post by Brian_K_White »

Like any tool, it can be used for both good and bad.

And like any tool, once it exists, it exists. Pointless to worry about if it should exist.

The only useful reaction is to ensure that for whatever powers of manipulation and discrimination it gives to some, that individuals get to use the same tools in their own defense.

Re: AI Model Detects Mental Disorders Based on Web Posts

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Post by sdoering »

bogwog wrote: post #55
sdoering wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. I happily include my personal site with quite some controversial articles (being my opinion at that time) on it in my resume. It works as a great filter for companies I wouldn't want to work for.

When you find yourself having to make a public apology for an old blog post in the future, you’re going to regret doing that. Or maybe a gen Z hacker that hasn’t been born yet will ransomware your business because you wrote an article today with a word that will become socially unacceptable in the future. I have no delusions that my political opinions or writing style are original enough or convincing enough to chang…

Why should I censor myself just because there are extremists out there?

I actually despise these trigger warnings and cancel culture of cultural pieces just because the author was a misogynistic idiot (or anti semite, or proponent of slavery). We need to put bools/texts/essays into their historical contexts and discuss why we today hold beliefs that are different (and to us feel more modern/humane/better).

I am politically very left, atheist and I argue against dehumanizing isms since my days in high school 25 to 30 years ago. But still I find value in discussing ideas from Kant, Luther or many others that nowadays are often canceled in educational settings because of their despicable values/isms.

Re: AI Model Detects Mental Disorders Based on Web Posts

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Post by criddell »

shane_b wrote: post #49
criddell wrote: post #48

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Could there be some public health benefits? Could the data help governments decide where to spend money and evaluate if the money spent has had any effect?

if the concern is abuse, i wouldn’t give it to gov

The concern is directing public resources in ways that are most effective. I'm thinking about populations and not individuals.

Re: AI Model Detects Mental Disorders Based on Web Posts

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Post by HWR_14 »

shane_b wrote: post #56
HWR_14 wrote: post #50

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Right, because it's better to trust that analysis to FaceBook. Why they could even pop-up something suggesting you seek help.

i assume this is sarcasm which is unhelpful. the original claim was to trust no one. my comment was the government should also not be trusted. people put on such a front on social i wouldn’t trust any analysis. especially not health related

If that was your original intent, you phrased it really badly. You didn't say "trust no one". People were asking what to do with it, and you said "i wouldn’t give it to gov". That isn't "this is dangerous and shouldn't exist".

Re: AI Model Detects Mental Disorders Based on Web Posts

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Post by Pigalowda »

protomyth wrote: post #35

I would assume that someone will come up with a phone app to fix text so it triggers no filters. SaneSpeak fixes your communications to analyze as sane, honest, and confident. Simple sliders allow you to project the personality you want your audience's AI to pick up. Chose proven presets and watch those sales and promotions roll in.

Not a bad idea! There’s been plenty of friends and colleagues that have asked me to look over their work emails in order come across as professional or least likely to generate conflict.

Might be nice to lazily respond to people and the program autogenerates professional boilerplate for you

Re: AI Model Detects Mental Disorders Based on Web Posts

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Post by pc86 »

sdoering wrote: post #61
pc86 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This works great for competent, experienced software engineers who are in extremely high demand right now. To be blunt, most people are not that valuable economically to a company, and so have to fight a lot more to get a lot less. Most people would find a hard time getting work with any broadly controversial topics associated with them. There's also the argument that software engineers may not always be in such high…

I am in demand now as a data analyst. But I did that already in my first jobs after college. I was able to get by on working as a bartender while looking for a job. I had fun doing it and little cost of living. Why should I have sacrificed my mental health or my happiness for a job working for assholes? (pardon my language)

I'm not saying you should have done it. I'm saying a lot of people have to.

Re: AI Model Detects Mental Disorders Based on Web Posts

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Post by pcdoodle »

version_five wrote: post #5

I'd say very little good can come from this. What would be an example of an "appropriate" use of this technology? Basically where it could excel is giving probabilistic prediction of "mental disorders" across a high volume of users. What is a good thing you would do with that? Advertising to suggest someone to get help, maybe?

I want a browser plugin for reddit to confirm my suspicions.

Re: AI Model Detects Mental Disorders Based on Web Posts

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Post by shane_b »

HWR_14 wrote: post #65
shane_b wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i assume this is sarcasm which is unhelpful. the original claim was to trust no one. my comment was the government should also not be trusted. people put on such a front on social i wouldn’t trust any analysis. especially not health related

If that was your original intent, you phrased it really badly. You didn't say "trust no one". People were asking what to do with it, and you said "i wouldn’t give it to gov". That isn't "this is dangerous and shouldn't exist".

> I'd say very little good can come from this.

> if the concern is abuse

not my intent, OP. the comment i replied to suggested gov instead. i made a comment about gov

there was as much reason to assume what i meant as much as what you assumed

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