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Element Call sounds like something I should integrate into the conference experience, but logistics and audience size is a concern. We'll be entering 1k+ territory this year.
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So will the room have a setting to make a voice video only room, a mixed room or a chat only room? I assume m.ring would not be needed if its a something like a Teamspeak room.
It wouldn't be a setting; the intent would be set based on how you initiated the call. If you hit a big 'call Alice and Bob!' button you'd get a call which rings them both; if you hit a 'start a conference' you'd get a Teams/Zoom-style conference; if you hit 'create a voice/video room' button you'd get a Discord-style voice/video room. (N.B. we might not bother with the group-calling option in Element; haven't decide…
From my perspective, the really exciting thing about this that it works equally well in mobile web browsers as well as desktop web - clicking on a link on Mobile Safari should Do The Right Thing without having to install anything. Moreover, because it's built on Matrix, MSC3401 ( https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/blob/matthew/group-... ) means that we'll finally have decentralised cascading video/voice confere…
Maybe a bit off-topic but will upcoming Matrix Live also be hosted via Matrix VoIP now? ^^ (At least the smaller ones like interviews where the number of participants is <=8 until compatibility with SFU is done)
My only concern is does this expose your IP to participants? This is one benefit of Discord Voice channels vs Discord Calls (which are end to end but expose your IP to everyone on the call, and theirs to you, so much so, you just open a console log and you can see them all...).
Currently yes, but it's trivial to fix and we'll do so on Monday - see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30570436
Why is this an Element thing and not a Matrix thing?
I run a hybrid conference [0] with a physical track and an online track. All tracks communicate using Matrix. Element Call sounds like something I should integrate into the conference experience, but logistics and audience size is a concern. We'll be entering 1k+ territory this year. [0] https://handmade-seattle.com
Why is this an Element thing and not a Matrix thing?
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Currently yes, but it's trivial to fix and we'll do so on Monday - see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30570436
Sounds like hiding IP is going to be opt-in? I'm not sure what the implications are of TURN but what would be the downside of making IP-hiding the default?
For instance, two users on the same LAN calling each other would end up bounced via the UK, which is a bit unfortunate if they are in Australia.
The solution is really to switch to using SFUs everywhere, which then solves both firewall traversal, scalability and privacy (assuming you’re happy for your SFU to know your IP - but if you’re happy for your TURN to know it, then it’s probably fine).