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The Rise of Sanctions as a Tool of Modern War

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Re: The Rise of Sanctions as a Tool of Modern War

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I'm presuming the link is supposed to be about this book https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300259360/economic-weapo...

There's a review with the same title as this post here: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/capsule-review/2021-1...

Which sums up the topic with:

> In an original and persuasive analysis, Mulder shows how isolating aggressors from global commerce and finance was seen as an alternative to war that worked precisely because of the pain it imposed on the target society. From the very beginning, it was civilians who suffered the most. Nevertheless, the League of Nations embraced sanctions and established an elaborate legal and bureaucratic apparatus to enforce them. Mulder argues that instead of keeping the peace, this form of economic warfare aggravated the tensions of the 1930s, encouraging austerity and autarky and restraining smaller states but backfiring against the larger authoritarian ones, such as Italy.

I think this is an interesting point to bring up, because, especially in the West, we hold a believe that "economic" violence is not as bad as "physical" violence. It's well worth at least questioning this assumption.

Re: The Rise of Sanctions as a Tool of Modern War

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Surely this will be an interesting event, but the title alone seems to compare economic sanctions with war, unfairly in my opinion.

From a schoolyard perspective, economic sanctions are like giving a peer the silent treatment. It hurts you both, but it's your right not to interact with someone if you find them sufficiently unpleasant. War is like committing homicide against that peer during recess. In other words, it's really fucking bad.

Re: The Rise of Sanctions as a Tool of Modern War

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I'm presuming the link is supposed to be about this book https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300259360/economic-weapo... There's a review with the same title as this post here: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/capsule-review/2021-1... Which sums up the topic with: > In an original and persuasive analysis, Mulder shows how isolating aggressors from global commerce and finance was seen as an alternative to war th…

In many ways, affected countries see sanctions not as a punishment or attack but as insult-by-action.

The actual economic effect may usually be countered but the humiliation remains.

So it may be efficient in scaring small, dependent nations but it won't lead to victories against large and proud ones.

And I mean the latter more in the criminal sentiment of "it's all about respect".

Re: The Rise of Sanctions as a Tool of Modern War

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I'm presuming the link is supposed to be about this book https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300259360/economic-weapo... There's a review with the same title as this post here: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/capsule-review/2021-1... Which sums up the topic with: > In an original and persuasive analysis, Mulder shows how isolating aggressors from global commerce and finance was seen as an alternative to war th…

I think that, in the world of nuclear powers, it is trivial to see that physical violence at war scales between nuclear powers is essentially infinitely bad.

Famine among millions of people, and general economic depression has a massive human toll. But it doesn't compare to full on nuclear war, followed by nuclear winter and Global radiation levels from fallout.

So it seems obvious to me that economic violence is the only for of violence the west can bring to bear against Russia. There is a discussion to be had on the matter of whether it should be brought to bear. Punishing the people for the actions of the elite and all that. Perhaps also a 'what does this system lead to in peace time' question, but that seems to argue 'economic sanctions are a tragedy of the commons', which means it is hard to address. At least the solution 'we just won't sanction' does not actually resolve the tragedy of the commons.

Re: The Rise of Sanctions as a Tool of Modern War

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Surely this will be an interesting event, but the title alone seems to compare economic sanctions with war, unfairly in my opinion. From a schoolyard perspective, economic sanctions are like giving a peer the silent treatment. It hurts you both, but it's your right not to interact with someone if you find them sufficiently unpleasant. War is like committing homicide against that peer during recess. In other words, it…

Silent treatment is cutting off diplomatic ties. Sanctions is starvation of resources, potentially impacting the war effort directly but indirectly by causing civil unrest.

I agree it’s certainly not the same as direct warfare, but its definitely somewhere in the middle, and can particularly castostrophic when done in a concerted multilateral fashion (ie. North Korea).

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