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Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Post by stuckkeys »

arcticbull wrote: post #563
Nextgrid wrote: post #558

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Crypto is held back by its own stupidity & inefficiency - the system self-regulates well enough. The only thing a blockchain is good for is assets that fully live on the blockchain for which the source of truth is the blockchain itself - like cryptocurrencies. Putting NFTs, video game/metaverse avatars, real-world assets, etc will never work; it's at best a very inconvenient, inefficient database replacement, and at…

This is something few have realized. Crypto guarantees can only ever extend to things that are wholly represented on-chain, and that's basically just cryptocurrencies. As soon as the chain reflects the real world it's at the mercy of the correct data being entered, or reality not changing around it. And this means pure cryptocurrencies, backed stablecoins do not offer any of the crypto guarantees either since they ar…

Interesting take on this. Something to think about.

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Post by nextlevelwizard »

keymon-o wrote: post #541
nextlevelwizard wrote: post #533

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>gamers could equally be limited to using a specifically designed devices for optimal gaming and entertainment purposes. We are trying, but crypto-bros are buying our cards. C'mon pay a bit more attention.

Trust me, I'd take your problem seriously if only those cards would speed up growing up for you, guys.

I hope you dont have hobbies, since apparently hobbies are now childish.

Maybe you should grow up a bit :)

Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Post by nextlevelwizard »

mattwilsonn888 wrote: post #624
nextlevelwizard wrote: post #535

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Seeing as Nvidia agrees with me, I think you are wrong. In any case the sales have started to drop so if Nvidia doesn't do anything after crypto fad ends they'll be out of business since people aren't buying their GPUs anymore.

So you believe that Nvidia needs crypto to survive but knowingly and intentionally hampers their cards' mining performance? You seem confused.

Not what I said at all. Re-read.

Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Post by nextlevelwizard »

mattwilsonn888 wrote: post #623
nextlevelwizard wrote: post #533

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>gamers could equally be limited to using a specifically designed devices for optimal gaming and entertainment purposes. We are trying, but crypto-bros are buying our cards. C'mon pay a bit more attention.

If video games are that important to you buy a video game console. The availability there is also bunk and has nothing to do with mining - claiming something which uses energy is automatically 'bad' is silly and relies on common ignorance and frustration. Cars use energy, lights use energy, video games use energy - crypto is new and you don't understand it past that fact that it uses energy so you can't tolerate it.…

>If video games are that important to you buy a video game console.

and play PC games how? for some reason I thought people around here were smart

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Post by mrkstu »

vetinari wrote: post #446
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #422

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>VP9 should be available since Mesa 18.1 (or so) for VCN-based GPUs (i.e. Raven Ridge and newer). Yeah, in theory it's available, but good luck actually getting your browser to use it to HW decode YouTube videos under linux out of the box. It usually works fine with video players like mplayer but not in browsers. There are endless threads online about this not working. I for one, never managed to get it to work in an…

> It usually works fine with video players like mplayer but not in browsers. Chrome doesn't support VA-API, so do not bother trying. Some distributions do have Chromium builds with VA-API support enabled, but YMMV. Chromium uses X11 only and libva requires dri2, so it doesn't work under XWayland, which supports only dri3. (=> Chromium with VA-API works only in native X11 session) Firefox does support VA-API. There wa…

The above is a fair summation of Linux's failure as a desktop in a single post.

Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Post by Atlas667 »

jason-phillips wrote: post #376
SkeuomorphicBee wrote: post #335

A bit off-topic, but the fact that criminals asked for help mining, instead of money or crypto-money, just gave me an epiphany: The whole internet is showing the first signs of a digital Resource Curse [1] brought by crypto mining. Crypto mining changed the economics of the digital world in such a drastic way that it is poisoning all kinds of internet interactions. It is not just about disrupting how money used to wo…

> The whole internet is showing the first signs of a digital Resource Curse [1] brought by crypto mining. Crypto mining changed the economics of the digital world in such a drastic way that it is poisoning all kinds of internet interactions. It is not just about disrupting how money used to work, it is disrupting every kind of interaction, even those that had nothing to do with money. Things that were completely econ…

It's incredible how much people can talk about capitalism without mentioning it. It's all about the trends in capital, but never about the general mode of capital. Which i do get to some extent. It does make sense to talk about trends, like advertising swallowing up all aspects of media, but critique can never be made on trends alone. Trends don't dictate processes, trends are the result of processes. If you look to explain this from the bottom up you'll hit a wall of individual decision making. But from the top down you see the influence behind those decisions, it's an economic choice that is necessitated to continue the process of capitalist accumulation in a corporation, country or even market.

It's not only crypto or advertising it's the process of capital using technologies to radically transform its production process in search of more profits. Be it by established corporations or groups of crypto miners. This mode of production will do this to any technology that can advanced the generation of capital. This is the core of capitalism, the revolutionizing of production, not for humanities sake, but for profits sake.

To settle on a single manifestation of this mode as its cause is to wear something like horse blinders and all conversations on the topic will be as narrow as the topic you want to hate on the most. And capital will keep chugging and keep using technology for its own sake at everyone's expense.

Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Post by vetinari »

mrkstu wrote: post #655
vetinari wrote: post #446

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> It usually works fine with video players like mplayer but not in browsers. Chrome doesn't support VA-API, so do not bother trying. Some distributions do have Chromium builds with VA-API support enabled, but YMMV. Chromium uses X11 only and libva requires dri2, so it doesn't work under XWayland, which supports only dri3. (=> Chromium with VA-API works only in native X11 session) Firefox does support VA-API. There wa…

The above is a fair summation of Linux's failure as a desktop in a single post.

Maybe it is, but keep in mind, that Chrome is a proprietary application - the Linux community and the desktop communities have exactly zero input, what will and what will be not supported.

On the Firefox side, Redhat and Suse people did the work to support video acceleration.

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Post by ggreg84 »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #429
ggreg84 wrote: post #225

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> I'm not a big fan of limiting hardware to run only approved software. One day it's for limiting crypto mining, the next day it will be for limiting our ability to use strong encryption. It's a slippery slope. I'd assume that developing extra features costs money. If a buyer doesn't need a feature, why should they have to pay for it? For example, if a gamer does not need drivers for a CAD program, or crypto features…

Because the hardware already does all of those things whether you paid for them or not. I don't care what the company thinks, if I pay for hardware I want the ability to use it to its fullest extent and without any question about my intentions. That is what it means to have computing freedom: I shouldn't have to answer to some bullshit corporate concerns over what I'm doing with my property. It's one thing to test yo…

> Because the hardware already does all of those things whether you paid for them or not.

AMD and Intel GPUs have the hardware capability of being great at CAD, but in practice they suck and nobody uses them because AMD and Intel do not have driver integration & certification with CAD software.

Why? Cause developing that costs money.

NVIDIA hardware and software only has this _because_ people that need it pay 10k$ for GFX cards that do these things.

If you'd wanted gamer cards to do these things, you'd need to add to the price tag of gamer cards the cost of developing and maintaining these things, which would make them more expensive.

The claim that this should be free because software and hardware costs nothing once you already have developed is illogical. CAD software, GPU driver software for CAD, and GPU hardware to meet CAD's demand, continues to evolve, which costs money.

Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Post by ggreg84 »

7steps2much wrote: post #275
ggreg84 wrote: post #225

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> I'm not a big fan of limiting hardware to run only approved software. One day it's for limiting crypto mining, the next day it will be for limiting our ability to use strong encryption. It's a slippery slope. I'd assume that developing extra features costs money. If a buyer doesn't need a feature, why should they have to pay for it? For example, if a gamer does not need drivers for a CAD program, or crypto features…

There is a difference between hardware that simply doesn't support a use case and hardware that technically supports stuff but was artificially locked to no longer do so. If the hardware was actually different then of course your argument would make sense, you could build cards that can only be used for a certain use case and sell those, but in that case you wouldn't have to lock down the card anyways

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Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Post by ouid »

pavlov wrote: post #405
jason-phillips wrote: post #376

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> The whole internet is showing the first signs of a digital Resource Curse [1] brought by crypto mining. Crypto mining changed the economics of the digital world in such a drastic way that it is poisoning all kinds of internet interactions. It is not just about disrupting how money used to work, it is disrupting every kind of interaction, even those that had nothing to do with money. Things that were completely econ…

Ads at least require an audience. Crypto mining abuse requires just the ability to execute anything. That’s why ads are like acne for the Internet, but crypto is a cancer.

This is exactly wrong. Crypto is fairly easy to make worthless. Ads are impossible to make worthless.
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