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BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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Re: BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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Post by snthd »

iso1631 wrote: post #4

Doesn't look like very sophisticated blocking, on MTS at least they seem to intercept DNS traffic and respond to www.bbc.com wtih their own If you ignore the certificate warning you get a redirect to http://blocked.mts.ru/?host=www.bbc.com Which states (in Russian): Access to the information resource is limited on the basis of the Federal Law of July 27, 2006 N 149-FZ "On Information, Information Technologies and Inf…

So DNS over HTTPS should work?

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-dns-over-https#...

chrome://flags/#dns-over-https

edge://flags#dns-over-https

Re: BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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Post by MichaelMoser123 »

enterexit wrote: post #49

Bring back Seva Novgorodsev! I was listening to the guy in the 80s via a SW radio... Fun times... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seva_Novgorodsev

he is alive and kicking, didn't know he got an MBE (isn't that a kind of knighthood?) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seva_Novgorodsev

The other thing is that the Russians will bring out the radio jammers, wow, these are absolutely crazy times...

If we are now back in the eighties, then generation Xers will get their second youth...

Re: BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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Post by sudosysgen »

severino wrote: post #97
aix1 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And, just to be clear, "can't be said of Russia right now" really means "publishing information that disagrees with the official line is punishable by up to 15 years in prison". https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/03/04/i-vse-ravno-15-l... Translation: https://novayagazeta-ru.translate.goog/articles/2022/03/04/i...

The same happens in the "free" and "democratic" EU too (which I belong to): https://www.la.lv/par-dezinformaciju-un-krievijas-agresijas-... Translation: https://www-la-lv.translate.goog/par-dezinformaciju-un-kriev...

That took me by surprise.

Re: BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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Post by dTal »

severino wrote: post #97
aix1 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And, just to be clear, "can't be said of Russia right now" really means "publishing information that disagrees with the official line is punishable by up to 15 years in prison". https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/03/04/i-vse-ravno-15-l... Translation: https://novayagazeta-ru.translate.goog/articles/2022/03/04/i...

The same happens in the "free" and "democratic" EU too (which I belong to): https://www.la.lv/par-dezinformaciju-un-krievijas-agresijas-... Translation: https://www-la-lv.translate.goog/par-dezinformaciju-un-kriev...

That is not the same.

Re: BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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Post by anon2020dot00 »

watwut wrote: post #90
anon2020dot00 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here I'll give you a quick example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30558245 Mikeb85 "> invades Iran The difference between Ukraine and all the other countries invaded in the last 50 or so years is that Ukraine is a real democracy and liberal, modern society. Iran, Syria, Iraq, etc... are not the same as Ukraine." femiagbabiaka "Truly amazing. This statement shows that you know very little about the history of U…

That is not example that would prove you are unable to discuss "western aggression" as a topic. It is not even example of you trying to discuss it in context other then Ukraine.

See the parent comment of Ekaros below who is talking about USA invading Iran. Then Mikeb85 chimes-in with the claim that Iran, Iraq, etc are "not a real democracy and liberal, modern society". When femiagbabiaka challenges that claim, Mikeb85 responds with "Russian propaganda and Whataboutism".

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30556335

Ekaros

"I wonder would these actions be then applied equally. Let's say USA invades Iran. Should we then terminate all of the domains and tlds hold by any USA based entity. Reclaim all of the IP space hold by them too? Surely it would solve some starvation issue, and be just, but do we want that?"

Common justification for Western aggression in Iraq and Afganistan is that these countries are not worthy of the same protections as Ukraine since they are not democatic, liberal and modern. When somebody challenges that claim, the response is simply labeled "Russian Propaganda and Whatboutism" killing the discussion.

Any questioning of the justification for Western Aggression is responded with "Russian Propaganda and Whatboutism". One cannot even discuss with Mikeb85 whether his claim is true or not, as backed by evidence.

Re: BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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Post by giraffe_lady »

hackerfromthefu wrote: post #96
CraigJPerry wrote: post #68

“DX”ing is a niche radio hobby, I’ve definitely fallen into it from time to time. The aim is to hear geographically distant stations - so it’s all about radio propagation throughout the day and that differs seasonally too. These days you can cheat, there are directories of SDR radios available for free online - in a couple of clicks you can explore the RF spectrum as heard from most populated locations in the world.…

Can you expand on the chinese sponsored english language content? How do you know and what kinds of topics?

China Radio International broadcasts professionally-produced news all over shortwave in a bunch of different languages targeting different countries.

It's just the news filtered through a state news agency. You know because they say "china radio international" all the time. It's surely propaganda same as BBC is but they aren't keeping the origins a secret or anything.

Re: BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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Post by anon2020dot00 »

watwut wrote: post #90
anon2020dot00 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here I'll give you a quick example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30558245 Mikeb85 "> invades Iran The difference between Ukraine and all the other countries invaded in the last 50 or so years is that Ukraine is a real democracy and liberal, modern society. Iran, Syria, Iraq, etc... are not the same as Ukraine." femiagbabiaka "Truly amazing. This statement shows that you know very little about the history of U…

That is not example that would prove you are unable to discuss "western aggression" as a topic. It is not even example of you trying to discuss it in context other then Ukraine.

I just realized that the spacing of the Mikeb85 quote was broken and so that affected the readability of his message.

Here is the message of Mikeb85 with proper formatting and it is clear here that he is using his claim of Iran, Iraq, etc.. as not being modern, liberal, democratic etc.. as justification for Western Aggression.

Mikeb85

"> invades Iran

The difference between Ukraine and all the other countries invaded in the last 50 or so years is that Ukraine is a real democracy and liberal, modern society.

Iran, Syria, Iraq, etc... are not the same as Ukraine."

Re: BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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Post by scruple »

MichaelMoser123 wrote: post #102
enterexit wrote: post #49

Bring back Seva Novgorodsev! I was listening to the guy in the 80s via a SW radio... Fun times... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seva_Novgorodsev

he is alive and kicking, didn't know he got an MBE (isn't that a kind of knighthood?) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seva_Novgorodsev The other thing is that the Russians will bring out the radio jammers, wow, these are absolutely crazy times... If we are now back in the eighties, then generation Xers will get their second youth...

I'm not particularly thrilled with reliving my youths geopolitical anxiety. Hearing airplanes overhead is making me twitch again...

I am pretty excited to have a reason to gravitate back towards radios, though. It's a fun, worthwhile, and interesting hobby.

Re: BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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Post by codedokode »

severino wrote: post #98
codedokode wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These number are provided by Russian government. How can you be sure that they are true? Also, those so called "referenda" did not conform to Ukrainian laws.

> Also, those so called "referenda" did not conform to Ukrainian laws. Yet Ukraine had no intention at all to organize a "real" referenda under their laws. Instead, they preferred to keep on bombing those rebel regions in Eastern Ukraine. Now, they ask Russia to stop doing the very same thing.

> Yet Ukraine had no intention at all to organize a "real" referenda under their laws

Why should they cede their land to someone? And why should referendum be held only in one region, and not in the whole country? No country will agree to this. Will Putin organize a referendum if I suggest that my city separate from Russia and join European Union? Did Putin or Eltsin organize such referendum in Chechnya?

It doesn't matter whether Ukraine should or should not have hold such referendum. It is Russian soldiers who crossed the border and pulled the trigger first in 2014, not Ukranian. The war (as almost every war) is there because Putin and many Russians want more land, more glorious victories and more political influence, not because someone didn't organize a referendum.

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