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Re: BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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Note that Europe also bans media they don’t like, namely RT News and Sputnik, along with severe guidance on content with regular threats of fines or deplatforming, coming from governments such as CSA in France. Censorship has absolutely a role in democracy.

I think the difference is that western media generally can and do publish at least some critical pieces. The same can't be said in Russia right now. It's a whole different level.

And, just to be clear, "can't be said of Russia right now" really means "publishing information that disagrees with the official line is punishable by up to 15 years in prison".

https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/03/04/i-vse-ravno-15-l...

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https://novayagazeta-ru.translate.goog/articles/2022/03/04/i...

Re: BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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How can you be sure they are not true? During these last 30 years there's been 3 different referenda about Crimea, all with roughly the same outcomes. > Also, those so called "referenda" did not conform to Ukrainian laws. US independence did also not conform to British laws, the existence of Kurdistan is not conform with Iraqi or Syrian national laws, Catalonian independence would not be conform with Spanish law, yet…

Russian government has a long history of meddling with elections, non-admission of candidates, falsifying results, for example [1] or [2]. Therefore they cannot be trusted, especially in this case. You cannot compare US war for independence with Crimea occupation because in US it was an internal movement to become idependent from a metropoly, but in Ukraine the events that occured were caused by Russian military inte…

>The same with Catalonia.

Wait, what? Catalonia had nothing to do with Russia.

Re: BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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A very small minority wanted to return to Russian rule on the eve of the invasion according to polling of Ukrainian people. And even if they did want to return to Russian rule (which they didn't), the just thing would've been to hold a referendum. They are a democracy after all.

I don't think referenda make much of a difference. 96% of Crimea ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Crimean_status_referendum ) voted to join Russia and 96% of Luhansk ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Donbas_status_referendums ) voted to leave Ukraine after the 2014 overthrow. Nothing much came out of it except 14,000 being killed in Donbas as result https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrain.…

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Re: BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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Yup, there's nothing wrong with it. Crying about it just an effective way to shut down dissent.

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Re: BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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How can you be sure they are not true? During these last 30 years there's been 3 different referenda about Crimea, all with roughly the same outcomes. > Also, those so called "referenda" did not conform to Ukrainian laws. US independence did also not conform to British laws, the existence of Kurdistan is not conform with Iraqi or Syrian national laws, Catalonian independence would not be conform with Spanish law, yet…

Russian government has a long history of meddling with elections, non-admission of candidates, falsifying results, for example [1] or [2]. Therefore they cannot be trusted, especially in this case. You cannot compare US war for independence with Crimea occupation because in US it was an internal movement to become idependent from a metropoly, but in Ukraine the events that occured were caused by Russian military inte…

It's not exactly true that Russia was the cause of it. At least not fully. I'd share the blame between US, EU and Russia, equally.

Worth watching this for a background of how the whole thing started. The guy was pretty on point with it, and it checks out from other sources too.

UnCommon Core: The Causes and Consequences of the Ukraine Crisis John J. Mearsheimer - The University of Chicago - 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4

Re: BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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What is the best type of radio, or best type of radios, to have in the event of a protracted, possibly nuclear conflict? Ready.gov suggests a hand crank or NOAA weather radio. Specifically, I suppose some good goals would be: 1. Receive instructions from any functioning local or state government. This would require that the local government know which type of radio the populace is likely to be listening on, which giv…

I own a TECSUN PL-880 for listening to broadcasts. Plus handheld Binatone Action 1000s for short range communications. Plus some ham gear for VHF/UHF.

Getting licensed is pretty easy and you learn a lot about radio.

Re: BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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I've never heard what's the actual problem with whatabaoutism. If you do bad things and get away with those, quit preaching at least.

I think Russians generally like their country because it is their home, think it should continue to exist, prefer that it be strong and not weak, and that its citizens should be secure and not insecure. No scandal, crime, or shortcoming of particular rulers has any bearing on this. Normal people in all countries are like this.

True but I separate my country from whatever government is currently in power. And if the government is running the country that I love into the ground... We rally around flags not people.

Re: BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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What measures does the Russian government take to prevent access to foreign media?

Russian authorities block access to internet sites they don't like. I imagine that on a technical level it's not hard to bypass those blocks, but the vast majority of the population is neither motivated nor technically savvy enough to do that. I don't know about foreign media specifically, but in the last couple of days they shut down some of the few remaining independent media outlets (TV Rain and Echo of Moscow) an…

The DPI is avoidable, the hard times would come when they'd start to block entire networks, but it seems they've learned the lesson from the hunt on Telegram.

Re: BBC resurrects shortwave broadcasts as Russia blocks news of Ukraine invasion

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The BBC has been broadcasting on shortwave for decades - BBC World Service. The, somewhat hyperbolic, article implies this is somehow new and "WWII era". Many counties around the world still use shortwave for various reasons - unofficial propaganda being one of them. The BBC World Service itself is and has been funded by the British government to promote its interests abroad.[1] The content is usually cultural in con…

> The BBC has been broadcasting on shortwave for decades - BBC World Service.

But stopped broadcasting in Europe and the Americas quite a while ago.

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