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Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Post by roywashere »

roland_nilsson wrote: post #31
fulvioterzapi wrote: post #4

Interestingly, they also work for accessing RT and Sputnik from the EU that are banning them.

From my location in Sweden, sputniknews.com is currently available but www.rt.com is not (error 403). Probably sputnik will go away as well, as the EU ban on these outlets is "expected to cover all means of distribution or transmission, including internet video sharing platforms and applications" https://techcrunch.com/2022/02/28/eu-rt-ban-extends-online/ This seems like a boneheaded move. What credibility will the E…

Yeah I really do not understand that! Very strange move

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Post by waffleiron »

roland_nilsson wrote: post #31
fulvioterzapi wrote: post #4

Interestingly, they also work for accessing RT and Sputnik from the EU that are banning them.

From my location in Sweden, sputniknews.com is currently available but www.rt.com is not (error 403). Probably sputnik will go away as well, as the EU ban on these outlets is "expected to cover all means of distribution or transmission, including internet video sharing platforms and applications" https://techcrunch.com/2022/02/28/eu-rt-ban-extends-online/ This seems like a boneheaded move. What credibility will the E…

It’s to the point where RT is able to publish the equivalent of this BBC article.

https://www.rt.com/russia/551256-how-access-rt-censorship-by...

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Post by nix23 »

madaxe_again wrote: post #14
jstanley wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My sense is that this is incorrect. I think the law would prohibit breaking into people's computers, not circumventing internet censorship. By circumventing internet censorship you're accessing information that its owner wants you to be able to access. You're not breaking into their computer.

Unfortunately, no. Consider prosecutions of users in the U.K. for accessing TPB via a VPN - TPB didn’t prohibit access, the govt did - but using any computer to access any information on any other computer which you are not authorised to access for any reason is an offence.

Now your are mixing copyright problems with accessing public-data...not really honest of you.

And it was not the Goverment who went against the users but Atari, Codemasters, TopWare Interactive, Reality Pump, Techland and the "Ministy of Sound"...for COPYRIGHT violations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_sharing_in_the_United_Kin...

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Post by xen0 »

rvieira wrote: post #37
LAC-Tech wrote: post #15

I'm always a bit perplexed when people hold up the BBC as an example of a respectable, unbiased news source - a lot of their stuff is ham-fisted, and some of it is flat-out propaganda. I wouldn't say they are noticeably worse than other media staples - everything is biased - but they don't deserve to be on the pedestal they are put on.

There are two BBCs. BBC News and BBC TV programmes. BBC TV programmes (from fiction to documentaries) are among the best of in the world in terms of productions. BBC News is incredibly biased pro-government. IMO, this all stems to the changes David Cameron did to its structure and funding, making it effectively averse to "upset" the government. They also have this view of "balance" that is best exemplified by invitin…

It's so pro-government that the government feels the need to discredit it?

Interesting...

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Post by lazyeye »

jbjbjbjb wrote: post #39
LAC-Tech wrote: post #15

I'm always a bit perplexed when people hold up the BBC as an example of a respectable, unbiased news source - a lot of their stuff is ham-fisted, and some of it is flat-out propaganda. I wouldn't say they are noticeably worse than other media staples - everything is biased - but they don't deserve to be on the pedestal they are put on.

Both left and right claim it is biased against them.

Even if the BBC is biased, it's still in the interest of both sides to claim it is biased against them.

One side may be accurately describing the problem, the other side protecting their territory.

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Post by cpach »

jbjbjbjb wrote: post #39
LAC-Tech wrote: post #15

I'm always a bit perplexed when people hold up the BBC as an example of a respectable, unbiased news source - a lot of their stuff is ham-fisted, and some of it is flat-out propaganda. I wouldn't say they are noticeably worse than other media staples - everything is biased - but they don't deserve to be on the pedestal they are put on.

Both left and right claim it is biased against them.

Interesting! It’s the same here in Sweden with the public service TV channels.

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Post by spacehunt »

dataflow wrote: post #33
LAC-Tech wrote: post #15

I'm always a bit perplexed when people hold up the BBC as an example of a respectable, unbiased news source - a lot of their stuff is ham-fisted, and some of it is flat-out propaganda. I wouldn't say they are noticeably worse than other media staples - everything is biased - but they don't deserve to be on the pedestal they are put on.

> I wouldn't say they are noticeably worse than other media staples My brain simplifies the double-negative to "I would say they are among the best media staples", which significantly changes the tone of your comment while (as far as I can tell) retaining the meaning. If you disagree with that simplification, though, I would suggest citing noticeably better sources of news that people can turn to.

You can't simplify a double negative like that, when there's more than 1 bit of information. "They are [not] noticeably worse than others" can mean any one of the following:

- They are worse, but not noticeable

- They are on par with others

- They are slightly better than others

- They are much better than others

- They are the best among others

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Post by switch007 »

jbjbjbjb wrote: post #39
LAC-Tech wrote: post #15

I'm always a bit perplexed when people hold up the BBC as an example of a respectable, unbiased news source - a lot of their stuff is ham-fisted, and some of it is flat-out propaganda. I wouldn't say they are noticeably worse than other media staples - everything is biased - but they don't deserve to be on the pedestal they are put on.

Both left and right claim it is biased against them.

The arguments are more complicated than that. That response serves to shut down any criticism of the BBC, as in “oh no matter what they do, they’ll be criticised”

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Post by rvieira »

xen0 wrote: post #44
rvieira wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are two BBCs. BBC News and BBC TV programmes. BBC TV programmes (from fiction to documentaries) are among the best of in the world in terms of productions. BBC News is incredibly biased pro-government. IMO, this all stems to the changes David Cameron did to its structure and funding, making it effectively averse to "upset" the government. They also have this view of "balance" that is best exemplified by invitin…

It's so pro-government that the government feels the need to discredit it? Interesting...

Yes, it's strange. Mind you that the several accusations of bias (e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jan/18/bbc-trust-says...) are political and Nadine Dorries' angle is "wokeness", not political party bias.

So I'm assuming it's a way to shift public debate to the "culture war" topic, where people are more emotional, less rational, than say the economy, etc.

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