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Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by bduerst »

krona wrote: post #92
veilrap wrote: post #78

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Cloth masks are estimated to be in the 50-60% effectiveness range. To me, that's quite effective, not ineffective. Especially when applied across an entire population.

I think you're off by an order of magnitude (5-6%) if you're referring to the risk of infection vs not wearing a basic, correctly worn surgical mask. And this is pre-omicron; omicron is far more transmissible. Happy to be corrected.

You're both right - by the time Omnicron rolled around it was evident that cloth masks were not as effective at preventing transmission.

That said, cloth masks were always recommended for gen pop given the low availability of N95 surgical masks. They're still better than nothing, and we're still learning more about this disease so it's subject to change even further as more observations are made.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by gsich »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #433
horsawlarway wrote: post #344

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Set boundaries. Decide if someone violating them is worth quitting over. It's a competitive market, and frankly - Many of the FAANG companies are terrible to work for. No one is saying you have total control of your schedule - but if I'm consistently asked to take a meeting at 9pm my time... I'll have a meeting with my manager, and it will consist of the following: "I will quit if they keep asking me to meet when I'd…

> Many of the FAANG companies are terrible to work for. How’s F and G and N (Netflix right?)? Friend works at G India. Sings paeans . He moved there after 6 months at Uber (where I resigned in a week). I have always heard shitty things about AA though so I guess that kinda settles it.

Netflix for some unknown reason. That's why I like GMAFIA.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by redsaz »

ianai wrote: post #310
blcknight wrote: post #290

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Not FAANG but Red Hat employees can contribute to open source on their own time — even if it competes with something that Red Hat makes.

Is that still true, post-IBM?

Can confirm this is still true, yes.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by zarzavat »

eschulz wrote: post #484
sunsetSamurai wrote: post #453

A lot of people have been saying that they'd rather quit their job than go back to the office, next few months are gonna be very interesting.

The main thing about money, Bud, is that it makes you do things you don't want to do. -Lou Mannheim

That may work at McDonalds but the average Apple employee has options and can work pretty much anywhere they want. “My way or the highway” is not a good strategy for retaining the best talent.

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Post by unmole »

blcknight wrote: post #290
abledon wrote: post #111

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> b) there's no such thing as "my own time" with Apple, since I was salaried and well-compensated. Is there 1 FAANG company that is the most friendly/accomodating to someone who wants to develop their own software/indiegames on the side?

Not FAANG but Red Hat employees can contribute to open source on their own time — even if it competes with something that Red Hat makes.

Does Red Hat even make proprietary software? I thought the business model was to open source everything and charge for enterprise support and cloud services?

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by viraptor »

raydev wrote: post #465
microtherion wrote: post #455

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In principle, I agree, but I should point out that "No meetings outside regular daylight hours" and "My employer shouldn't care where in the world I do my job" are not compatible with each other. In the course of a week, I collaborate literally with people in the UK, California, China, and Saudia Arabia. People are occasionally have to take meetings outside daylight hours. Best we can do is to (a) minimize the number…

> In principle, I agree, but I should point out that "No meetings outside regular daylight hours" and "My employer shouldn't care where in the world I do my job" are not compatible with each other. Not if you're all in North America. I've worked for two large, distributed companies in the last several years, where I reside in Eastern time zone. There's enough overlap between me and teammates in the Pacific time zone…

Yeah, I don't get that one. You need to be in some really extreme timezones to not have any overlap. I worked with both UK and US from Australia (not Apple) and it was possible. Occasionally I'd do a meeting at night and start later the next day, but it was always my choice.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by tombert »

microtherion wrote: post #455
VBprogrammer wrote: post #277

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> When we went fully remote, suddenly it seems like any compunctions about that vanished; I would have meetings until 9pm 3 nights a week This is why there is a decline button next to the accept button. An outage or something disastrous, sure I'll stay online till midnight to help in anyway I can; a regular status update type meeting, no way.

In principle, I agree, but I should point out that "No meetings outside regular daylight hours" and "My employer shouldn't care where in the world I do my job" are not compatible with each other. In the course of a week, I collaborate literally with people in the UK, California, China, and Saudia Arabia. People are occasionally have to take meetings outside daylight hours. Best we can do is to (a) minimize the number…

> spread the pain fairly so nobody has to always take meetings at awkward hours.

That was my biggest issue; obviously a late meeting or two occasionally is fine. It's a distributed team, that's a necessary evil. It just bothered me that, after COVID, they made zero attempt at even trying accommodate the satellite offices.

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Post by 01100011 »

steeve wrote: post #52
windows2020 wrote: post #21

Maybe it's me, but I have yet to experience 'innovation' result from a conversation held over coffee or a chance encounter. I've had better luck creating connections with other parts of the business and exchanging ideas over the infrequent cocktail party where it's a mission of the night. Say all you want about open floorplans and irrelevant quiet encounters. Having said that, every situation is unique.

My experience is the exact opposite: most innovation I came across was the result of a in-person informal discussion. So yeah, YMMV

Yep. I loved WFH years ago as a contractor doing hired gun work where I didn't need to interact with many folks and just mostly fixed bugs. I also loved full time WFH during the panini for the most part, although doing it in a tiny SiValley apartment sucked. Now that I'm doing architectural work and going into the office twice a week I get it. Nothing beats in person discussion for certain critical discussions.

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Post by gonehome »

ericd wrote: post #362
birdyrooster wrote: post #299

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Can confirm, Google was really stingy with their RSUs compared to Apple, but the perks really aren't that good with the exception of the food, which, when speaking to current Googlers, they say the food quality has fallen precipitously. Google at the time I worked there seemed to lean heavily on its reputation to reduce total comp.

Apple’s cafe charges for food, and gives its interns very outdated machines. They’re much stingier than Google, or at least they were.

The food is heavily subsidized though and really good iirc.

Google's food is good too, but people bitch about it. Arguably they bitch about it partly because it's free which commoditizes its value to zero so they don't value it. At least that's why I suspect Apple charges a subsidized rate.

I saw the same thing where I used to work which also had incredible food. When something is free entitled employees whine about it.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by microtherion »

viraptor wrote: post #496
raydev wrote: post #465

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In principle, I agree, but I should point out that "No meetings outside regular daylight hours" and "My employer shouldn't care where in the world I do my job" are not compatible with each other. Not if you're all in North America. I've worked for two large, distributed companies in the last several years, where I reside in Eastern time zone. There's enough overlap between me and teammates in the Pacific time zone…

Yeah, I don't get that one. You need to be in some really extreme timezones to not have any overlap. I worked with both UK and US from Australia (not Apple) and it was possible. Occasionally I'd do a meeting at night and start later the next day, but it was always my choice.

As I said, our team is literally spread evenly around the globe (though not nearly in equal numbers). Every hour of the day is bound to be awkward for someone.
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