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Re: Show HN: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by neilpanchal »

raegis wrote: post #139
neilpanchal wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TTF hinting is automatic, using vertical and horizontal stem widths. Manual hinting is WIP. I've gotten feedback for trial fonts, please sign up for notifications at the bottom of the page and we'll email you when that's properly available. It requires some font engineering and writing up a license for it.

Do you have any screenshots with emacs or vim on Linux, and maybe a terminal?

iTerm (on macOS): https://berkeleygraphics-public.s3.amazonaws.com/static/imag...

I don't have a linux desktop handy, I'll create a full suite of screenshots in various environments and languages to post on the website.

Re: Show HN: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by Turing_Machine »

thereisnospork wrote: post #92
Turing_Machine wrote: post #46

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There is a ton of entitlement nowadays, that's for sure. One should be grateful to those who do release their hard work to the public domain or under a FOSS license, rather than being resentful toward those who don't. People absolutely deserve to be compensated for their work, if they so choose, and they are absolutely permitted to release their work under any license they want.

I think the problem is more that the costs feel exorbitant with respect to both the perceived effort and utility. 75$ is half a year of Netflix - a product clearly born of extensive multi-disciplinary effort - which can't but feel excessive given that the marginal utility of a font is just so low. I guess I could summarize as saying that an expensive[0] font just isn't, or more strongly, can't be interesting.[1] [0]M…

> given that the marginal utility of a font is just so low.

Then... don't buy it? I mean, it's not like there aren't hundreds of other fonts to choose from, many of which are free.

Re: Show HN: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by murphyslab »

farleykr wrote: post #55
jameshe wrote: post #34

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Yeah, every time a typeface is shared on here it is met with some opposition since most cost money for individuals/personal use. I understand it's hard to take the time to design a nice typeface and that the creators should be compensated for their work, but sadly it means fonts like these are practically limited to commercial use. I wonder if there's a better way to turn a profit on typefaces - there's been a handfu…

You might be interested in futurefonts.xyz. Kind of like Kickstarter for fonts. You pay for typefaces in development. Price goes up as more features and components get added but you get everything that’s included when you buy it and then everything that’s added afterward for no additional cost.

One downside of futurefonts.xyz is that each font comes with a different license. Bit of a headache to keep track of the individual Terms & Conditions as a typical user who might want to use a couple of fonts in a project. Really wish that fonts were sold under more standardized commercial licenses.

At least with many open & free fonts, the SIL Open Font License is practically the standard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIL_Open_Font_License

Re: Show HN: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by josefrichter »

armadillu wrote: post #14

I can only really judge a font when its loaded in my system, running in my setup. I wish font makers targeting developers would release trial fonts (with some essential chars missing or similar), so that we could test them properly before paying. I am always looking for a better font, and this one looks like it may be an improvement over my current one.

MonoLisa has a playground where you can paste code snippets and try the font - that might be a good approach for other fonts aimed at developers. https://www.monolisa.dev/playground

[I am not affiliated with MonoLisa]

Re: Show HN: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by ricardobeat »

Love this, but I find the yearly / per-seat pricing for commercial use very hostile. Nobody wants to be chasing bills for a single typeface in their project. A one-off charge somewhere between $300-$999 would be much more attractive, buy-and-forget.

Re: Show HN: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by biztos »

Looks nice.

You could support Hungarian with only two additional letters.

I find the subscription license for commercial use a bit problematic. Say I have an app and I want to use the font. That’s “commercial” as long as it’s not “personal” AFAICT… and if I stop paying your fee some day then technically the app has to be modified or taken down.

This might not be a problem, but it’s not really “no strings attached.” There should be a fixed-fee perpetual commercial license as well.

Best of luck with it, I’m sure it’s hard to compete with all the free developer fonts!

Re: Show HN: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by 908B64B197 »

spockz wrote: post #17

I really like the font. At least at mobile it seems to be extremely clear. I cannot pinpoint why. But to try it in my editor it seems I need to buy a $75 license first. Is there another free download button I missed?

Creator said somewhere in the thread he's considering a trial version.

Re: Show HN: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by cloud_herder »

flobosg wrote: post #19

What a great marketing page. I loved the animation! I’m also a big fan of the design of the author’s website: https://neil.computer/

You know those pictures where it says "the longer you look the worse it gets" - this is the opposite of that. The longer I look at this site, the more I love it.

Re: Show HN: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by lghh »

josefrichter wrote: post #145
armadillu wrote: post #14

I can only really judge a font when its loaded in my system, running in my setup. I wish font makers targeting developers would release trial fonts (with some essential chars missing or similar), so that we could test them properly before paying. I am always looking for a better font, and this one looks like it may be an improvement over my current one.

MonoLisa has a playground where you can paste code snippets and try the font - that might be a good approach for other fonts aimed at developers. https://www.monolisa.dev/playground [I am not affiliated with MonoLisa]

MonoLisa also has a trial version. [1] They have a great site, I love the font, and the availability of a free trial was the icing on the cake. Great experience all around.

https://www.monolisa.dev/buy/661578

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