Live data from Hacker News

Google Ads suspended me and turned a deaf ear

kajic.com

11–20 of 183 posts

Re: Google Ads suspended me and turned a deaf ear

#11
This has been my experience with Google too.

I have a suspended Google Merchant Center account for an ecommerce site. That's Google's service to list products for their "shopping" search tab, which you also need to run shopping ads. I sell some home decor items I hand make in my home workshop with a laser cutter and paint. Nothing weird, just like "welcome to our home" type signs. It's a standard Shopify-hosted store with flat rate shipping, a posted shipping policy, return policy, privacy policy, and contact page with a contact form, my address and my phone number on it. That should check off all of Google's requirements for a merchant center account. But, it was immediately suspended and multiple requests to reconsider the suspension just get me a form letter back saying my site violates their policies. No human at Google will ever give me any specific reason why.

Every month or so, one of my Google Ads for another site gets suspended for violating the policy "Certificate required: free desktop software". This policy is about ads that link to downloadable .exe/.zip desktop software. My ads, which have been largely running without change for 9-10 years, are for a SaaS analytics service for marketers. There is no desktop software or downloadable files on the website. Just your typical pricing/signup/login pages like any web app. There is no rhyme or reason as to what ad in my account they will suspend each month. I can create the same ad again and it'll be approved since there is no actual policy violation.

Like OP, I can easily reach a human to sell me more ads. No matter how many times I click the unsubscribe links in their emails or ask to opt out, they actually hound me, at every email of mine they can find, and all my personal and business phone numbers, to take "account review" calls where they can try to talk me into spending more on Google Ads. But when it comes to getting support for policy issues, nobody will talk to you.

Re: Google Ads suspended me and turned a deaf ear

#12
post #8

Google is not your friend and must be treated as an adversary.

This applies to literally any public corporation.

Perhaps, but in a normal business partnernship, you have contracts that spell out the terms and means of recourse. With Google ad services, you have vague ToS spelled out by one party and no real recourse.

Re: Google Ads suspended me and turned a deaf ear

#13
post #4

Good luck getting a straight, specific answer from anyone at Google regarding supposed problems that violate one of their vaguely worded policies. Some of the stuff flagged by their automated systems are laughable - one that comes to mind is an ad promoting genealogy research that was blocked for promoting birth control. Not that the other platforms are much better. A nonfiction book publisher once told me her Amazon…

> that was blocked for promoting birth control

I can't let this pass without commenting on it. When did promoting birth control become a problem ? Is Google run by some religious cabal who believe that we shouldn't contradict God's will ? I assume the intention is to keep various groups in the USA happy ? Would be interested to know if you can "promote birth control" outside of the USA.

Re: Google Ads suspended me and turned a deaf ear

#14
post #9

Welcome to the world of blackhat SEO. If someone starts driving up the price of ads for a targeted keyword, you generate a massive amount of abuse and pay people to write complaints to Google. From Google's perspective, they look at your account and see activity that indicates you are doing terrible things. Coupons are an extremely competitive and hostile market to be in. Not saying what happened to OP is fair or acc…

Exactly, competitors may well be the source of your problems. It's cheaper (and safer) to trash your competitors than raising your own rankings (with SEO).

Re: Google Ads suspended me and turned a deaf ear

#15
post #13
post #4

Good luck getting a straight, specific answer from anyone at Google regarding supposed problems that violate one of their vaguely worded policies. Some of the stuff flagged by their automated systems are laughable - one that comes to mind is an ad promoting genealogy research that was blocked for promoting birth control. Not that the other platforms are much better. A nonfiction book publisher once told me her Amazon…

> that was blocked for promoting birth control I can't let this pass without commenting on it. When did promoting birth control become a problem ? Is Google run by some religious cabal who believe that we shouldn't contradict God's will ? I assume the intention is to keep various groups in the USA happy ? Would be interested to know if you can "promote birth control" outside of the USA.

> Google doesn't allow ads related to birth control or fertility products in the following countries: Bahrain, China, Djibouti, Egypt, Hong Kong, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Malaysia, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Oman, Palestinian Territory, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Thailand, Tunisia, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Yemen

https://support.google.com/adspolicy/answer/176031?hl=en

Re: Google Ads suspended me and turned a deaf ear

#17
post #5

There needs to be some kind of law that mandates that a company MUST reply to customers and/or users within a given time and offer a proper redress process. I remember years ago FB would block your site and they would give you NO OPTION to contact them - like AT ALL (they used to hide the support chat button, and I think they still do from some people). I also knew a company that got its own IG account indefinitely s…

“If your support is this poor/non-existent, you shouldn't get to talk about your "record-breaking multi-billion dollar profits" quarter after quarter.”

I am wondering more and more whether these companies are so profitable because they are more efficient or if a lot of their profits come from cutting customer support most companies used to do.

Re: Google Ads suspended me and turned a deaf ear

#18
post #8

Google is not your friend and must be treated as an adversary.

This applies to literally any public corporation.

I don't think every corp really warrants this kind of response. Google has a monopoly, and does an exceptionally poor job of assisting their customers. It is not the norm.

Re: Google Ads suspended me and turned a deaf ear

#19
Was just pondering if you could unionize (in a very loose way).

Come up with your own set of rules that come within google's, peer review each other to ensure that you meet your own rules - then if google pulls one of you, the rest of you walk.

Don't have to shift how google works, just present to google as a large enough mass of money that you get promoted to a service rep, rather than templated rules and emails.

There's also a benefit on the google side - that if you're a self-moderating group, what gets escalated to them is likely to be a valid issue.

Re: Google Ads suspended me and turned a deaf ear

#20
post #14
post #9

Welcome to the world of blackhat SEO. If someone starts driving up the price of ads for a targeted keyword, you generate a massive amount of abuse and pay people to write complaints to Google. From Google's perspective, they look at your account and see activity that indicates you are doing terrible things. Coupons are an extremely competitive and hostile market to be in. Not saying what happened to OP is fair or acc…

Exactly, competitors may well be the source of your problems. It's cheaper (and safer) to trash your competitors than raising your own rankings (with SEO).

With something like coupons where you are making affiliate revenue, advertisers have it pretty well dialed in how much they can bid and still make a profit. Since they aren't selling a product directly, there is zero advantage to continue bidding if the price goes up. They are left with two options: find a new market, or push out bidders to low the competitiveness of the market.
Post reply on HN