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Re: Show HN: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by kevincox »

bobbylarrybobby wrote: post #29
zitterbewegung wrote: post #25

I like the typeface but I think it would be helpful to have a way for someone to copy and paste their code as a preview but I think that if you allowed that then others could download your font for free. You might want to mention that it costs $75 above the fold and I would think that you would want also to center the column of the site itself (these are nitpicks though).

One option to allow users to preview the font while not letting them download it for free is to have them submit their code sample, render an image of it on the server, then send that back to the user. Not as nice as rendering the font in browser, of course, but it works.

The problem with rendering a picture is that it doesn't reflect how it renders on my setup in my editor which can be quite important.

Re: Show HN: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by huhtenberg »

tuccinator wrote: post #68
neilpanchal wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is some Python, but no {}: https://neil.computer/notes/berkeley-mono-february-update/#b... I'll plan for a nice page with various languages and full page screenshots. Edit: Fixed link, thanks.

Please include screenshots from both Windows and MacOS.

And in sizes from 8px to 12px.

Better yet, make a trial version of the font available.

Re: Show HN: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by eej71 »

neilpanchal wrote: post #21
armadillu wrote: post #14

I can only really judge a font when its loaded in my system, running in my setup. I wish font makers targeting developers would release trial fonts (with some essential chars missing or similar), so that we could test them properly before paying. I am always looking for a better font, and this one looks like it may be an improvement over my current one.

Thanks and good feedback, beta testing was done in a similar way - font cut with a few missing glyphs and was limited to ASCII-basic set. I'll see if I can extend this more generally.

One idea to consider... offer the font but with the vowels jumbled around and the digits jumbled around. I can see everything I need. But would need to buy it if I really want to use it.

Re: Show HN: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by huhtenberg »

Looks nice in principle, but being suitable for the actual daily use (for coding) will depend on how it renders in a specific IDE at a specific size on a specific OS. There's LOTS of mono fonts that look great in larger sizes or on Macs, but that all but unbearable to look at in smaller sizes on Windows.

There's no mention of this font having a manually hinted TTF version, which is pretty much required for rendering under these conditions. This gives me a very big pause. As others have said - at $75 a pop this font absolutely needs a downloadable, installable and usable trial. How it looks in PDF and rendered to a bitmap may showcase its design well, but not its real-world usage. That's assuming that the author means to position it also as a coding font (which seems to be the case judging by the samples).

Re: Show HN: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by woodruffw »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #108
gjvc wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UNIX was created for ATT to sell more telephone service From where did you get this idea? Citation needed.

AT&T was in the business of selling telephone service. Bell labs (AT&T owned) was where UNIX was created. Why else would AT&T be researching computer systems if not to broaden and improve their marketshare in telecommunications?

My understanding of Bell Labs is that it was funded via a 1% flat "tax" on all Bell System operating companies, and that internally it had no central mission. That's why all kinds of non-telecommunication advancements have come from it: radio astronomy, DNA sequencing machines, solar cells, etc.

I can't find an article for it, but I remember reading somewhere that AT&T's extravagant research budget and forays outside of telecommunications were partially a defensive maneuver: AT&T was aware that the US government could dismantle its monopoly at any moment, and invested heavily in R&D as a token of good faith.

Re: Show HN: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by neilpanchal »

lidavidm wrote: post #119

This may be a dumb question, but how do you make a document like that fake patient chart in this demo? [1] Is there an editor that can do things like this? Or is it all laid out by hand? [1] https://neil.computer/notes/berkeley-mono-february-update/

Yes, done by hand, a lot of elbow grease. Same with the animation which took an insane amount of time (700 frames). Shout out to MonoDraw (Berkeley Mono works wonderfully with it): https://monodraw.helftone.com/

Re: Show HN: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by goldenchrome »

lidavidm wrote: post #119

This may be a dumb question, but how do you make a document like that fake patient chart in this demo? [1] Is there an editor that can do things like this? Or is it all laid out by hand? [1] https://neil.computer/notes/berkeley-mono-february-update/

It’s likely laid out by hand.

Given the file name “Artboard-2” my guess is that it’s done in Adobe Illustrator, but you can do that in any graphics editing tool like Photoshop, Figma, Sketch, etc.

For typographic work, I recommend a vector-based tool because it scales to any resolution.

Re: Show HN: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by bduerst »

lidavidm wrote: post #119

This may be a dumb question, but how do you make a document like that fake patient chart in this demo? [1] Is there an editor that can do things like this? Or is it all laid out by hand? [1] https://neil.computer/notes/berkeley-mono-february-update/

Not saying this is what they used for this demo, but Crystal Reports is commonly used in the medical industry for print/reporting like that:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Reports#/media/File:SA...

(if that is what you were asking)

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