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Single psilocybin dose may make lasting personality change

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Re: Single psilocybin dose may make lasting personality change

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I don't doubt it, but reading a book may make a lasting personality change too.

Reading a "good" book definitely has lasting personality changes for me. I can safely say that at-least 15 of the 22 books I have read so far this year, had lasting effect on my personality.

Changes in these traits ... were larger in magnitude than changes typically observed in healthy adults over decades of life experiences, the scientists say.

Clearly most people don't read good books, or scientists would have seen evidence of their radical personality-changing effect.

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is that enlightening? The doc makes you sound like an imbecile.

That's pretty harsh. I bet you Huxley's original notes for Doors Of Perception were probably jumbled too. But both DoP and Mark's notes allude to the same thing: without a valve on our consciousness, we'd just sit around all day and be blown away by the creases in our jeans. Edit: oh ya, and thanks for sharing Mark.

Seconded, thanks for sharing Mark. A number of friends have gone through life altering trips such as you describe, there appear to be positive things that can be gleaned from psychedelics about oneself.

That said I had one friend who didn't come back and ended up in an institution for a period of months. He had a number of underlying issues that the drug brought to the fore. It was a horrible experience for all involved.

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Psilocybin use definitely changed me for the better. The first time I did it was one of the most eye-opening and impacting experiences in my life. Since my first trip, I've tried to work it into my life at least 1-2 times a year. Every time I feel like I learn something new and/or come out a better person by seeing certain aspects of life in a new light. It's something you only want to try in controlled environments…

The emphasis is on: done right, with the right people.

There is a reason why drugs are prohibited in many countries. People don't use them "correctly" and can become messed up pretty heavily.

I took shrooms when I was 18. After an initial phase of a lot of hardly controllable laughter, I experienced the strongest fear that I ever had in my life. Basically, the fear to remain stuck on this trip - nothing unusual by the way, as I figured out later by reading reports from other people. The main fear for me was to be stuck in this situation where your brain isn't filtering anything anymore. I was literally sitting around UNABLE to do anything. I mean, somehow I knew how to do a more complicated thing (like building another joint), but somehow I was incapable of performing the necessary steps. It was frightening, especially since there was no supervisor who could lead me out of this spiral of fear. The fear lasted only for 2 hours or so, then the trip was over as I fell asleep.

But I had panic attacks for another 6 months. Also a very typical time frame for many people. No fun. Stressful places, loud dogs, everything noise sort of made me feel anxious. On the other hand, it was a time where I thought about myself A LOT. I mean, really a lot. After 6 months, I somehow emerged with new self-confidence which grew a lot over time way beyond the self-confidence I had before (which could also be just a side-effect of getting older, I don't know).

So, now I wouldn't like to miss that experience. I don't know how it changed me, but I certainly do recommend that people should never try hallucinogenic drugs without supervision - people who can help you mentally to escape states of fear.

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I once had a single, very high dose Psilocybin experience which lead to a lasting change that was very much for the worse.

Having had my perception of reality profoundly changed by the experience I began to question my senses on a regular basis, with associated anxiety and panic. Then there were also the nightmares where I was tripping, would wake up, have something weird / trippy happen have a "world is ending" anxiety attack complete with ears ringing so loudly its painful. Then I'd wake up from that, with similar results, only to wake up from that. Never really sure if I was fully awake or not.

Thankfully after 18 months or so, it went away.

Of course, your mileage my vary :-)

I personally am in favour of this type of research but just wanted to share my experience. Its not all beer and skittles!

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i took mushrooms once, and documented my experience. i've gone back and re-read it several times, and each time i do so, i both laugh like crazy and realize i was getting glimpses of ideas i'm only now starting to understand. if you want to read it, here it is: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9465583/ShroomReport.pdf

Thanks for sharing this. This is literally a legal proxy for understanding what kind of changes the article is talking about, so I think this is plenty relevant :)

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post #33
post #9

Psilocybin use definitely changed me for the better. The first time I did it was one of the most eye-opening and impacting experiences in my life. Since my first trip, I've tried to work it into my life at least 1-2 times a year. Every time I feel like I learn something new and/or come out a better person by seeing certain aspects of life in a new light. It's something you only want to try in controlled environments…

The emphasis is on: done right, with the right people. There is a reason why drugs are prohibited in many countries. People don't use them "correctly" and can become messed up pretty heavily. I took shrooms when I was 18. After an initial phase of a lot of hardly controllable laughter, I experienced the strongest fear that I ever had in my life. Basically, the fear to remain stuck on this trip - nothing unusual by th…

Ahh yes, I forgot to mention the importance of an experienced "babysitter" for your first trip or three, until you're confident and fully comprehend where your mind will be going for the ensuing 3-6 hours.

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post #33
post #9

Psilocybin use definitely changed me for the better. The first time I did it was one of the most eye-opening and impacting experiences in my life. Since my first trip, I've tried to work it into my life at least 1-2 times a year. Every time I feel like I learn something new and/or come out a better person by seeing certain aspects of life in a new light. It's something you only want to try in controlled environments…

The emphasis is on: done right, with the right people. There is a reason why drugs are prohibited in many countries. People don't use them "correctly" and can become messed up pretty heavily. I took shrooms when I was 18. After an initial phase of a lot of hardly controllable laughter, I experienced the strongest fear that I ever had in my life. Basically, the fear to remain stuck on this trip - nothing unusual by th…

>There is a reason why drugs are prohibited in many countries. People don't use them "correctly" and can become messed up pretty heavily.

There's another reason they're prohibited as well - users tend to think a lot about interpersonal relations, society, power structures, etc.

Sorry to hear about your panic attacks, I've gone through the same thing as well, but likely a decade after I last took drugs of any kind. They're not fun. I sometimes wonder if maybe I had smoked a bit during my stressful times that I would have been able to put things in better perspective without having to resort to real mind altering drugs from the pharmacist. Who knows...

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'Nearly all of the participants in the new study considered themselves spiritually active (participating regularly in religious services, prayer or meditation).'

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'In the study, the change occurred specifically in those volunteers who had undergone a "mystical experience,"... He defines "mystical experience" as among other things, "a sense of interconnectedness with all people and things accompanied by a sense of sacredness and reverence."'

So they took a bunch of people prone to mystical experiences and found when you give them hallucinogenics that they have further mystical experiences?

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