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Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by robertoandred »

gdulli wrote: post #98
jb1991 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That stat has been widely reported, in the U.S. at least. There are more deaths from Covid occurring currently in the U.S. on an average daily basis that at any prior time in the pandemic. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/24/health/covid-deaths-now-y... NY Times, Washington Post, and other media have similar stories.

"More than 2,000 Covid-19 deaths have been reported in the United States each day for the past month" This is 2 weeks old and already out of date. Numbers are in freefall. It's now at 1,357. And cases have dropped sharply and consistently for a few weeks which means the (lagging) drop in deaths will continue for a few weeks.

What? The daily average is still at 1,800.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by mschuster91 »

gdulli wrote: post #98
jb1991 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That stat has been widely reported, in the U.S. at least. There are more deaths from Covid occurring currently in the U.S. on an average daily basis that at any prior time in the pandemic. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/24/health/covid-deaths-now-y... NY Times, Washington Post, and other media have similar stories.

"More than 2,000 Covid-19 deaths have been reported in the United States each day for the past month" This is 2 weeks old and already out of date. Numbers are in freefall. It's now at 1,357. And cases have dropped sharply and consistently for a few weeks which means the (lagging) drop in deaths will continue for a few weeks.

It's still about four airplanes worth of people crashing daily, to put it into perspective.

Not to mention people under immunosuppression or legitimately unable to get vaccinated (e.g. allergies or immunodeficient) - these poor souls are effectively locked into their homes as a permanent jail.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by WithinReason »

robertoandred wrote: post #119
WithinReason wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. There is a huge difference between "dying with COVID" and "dying from COVID".

So how many people are currently dying because of covid?

For the UK see my comment here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30558089

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by 1270018080 »

teeray wrote: post #27
bch wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If "real estate" were the real reason, that'd just be an example of throwing good money after bad.

Nobody is immune from the Sunk Cost Fallacy

Just look at the butterfly keyboard or removing all the ports but usb-c.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by nrmitchi »

nostromo wrote: post #16

More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. I'm happy we're returning to normalcy, but it just makes me wonder "why now?" It's like the government and big business just decided overnight to declare "mission accomplished" when nothing substantial has changed. Last summer, for example, could have been the reopening, and we'd have better data and "…

> More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves.

I'm not disagreeing with your point, however IIRC this is heavily concentrated among unvaccinated individuals, and I believe that Apple/Google/etc employees are overwhelmingly vaccinated. I would be shocked if these companies didn't have accommodation processes in place for individuals who are still at high risk.

I'm not disagreeing with your overall point, but there's no guarantee that the same trends/statistics exist in this sub-population.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by CSSer »

ghaff wrote: post #71
danceparty wrote: post #32

From the article, in office is 3 days per week - > We will then begin the hybrid pilot in full on May 23, with people coming to the office three days a week — on Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday — and working flexibly on Wednesday and Friday if you wish.

Though personally I'm fully remote, everything I've read and seen suggests something like this is going to be extremely common. Most employees seem to want to come into an office on a semi-regular basis but not 5 days a week. And, if you're going to do that, you probably want some level of coordination whether it's at a company, facility, or team level.

Can confirm. We do something like this (2 days in, 3 days remote). We have one mandatory day and then each team has a designated day where their whole team is present. I never minded going into the office anyway because I live in a fairly small apartment, so it's nice to have dedicated space away from home. The only downside I've experienced so far is that the all-teams day can be very chaotic, with more disruptions than ever before because everyone tries to plan everything that is more than a little involved for that day.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by jeffbee »

nradov wrote: post #64
jb1991 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That stat has been widely reported, in the U.S. at least. There are more deaths from Covid occurring currently in the U.S. on an average daily basis that at any prior time in the pandemic. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/24/health/covid-deaths-now-y... NY Times, Washington Post, and other media have similar stories.

That is misinformation. The current US daily death rate is significantly lower than the January 2021 peak. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/#graph-...

The CDC excess deaths count shows the Omicron peak was about the same as any prior peak. Note that the CDC excess deaths data has a tendency to rise until it is at least 12 weeks old, due to state bureaucracy, as explained on their page.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by giarc »

nostromo wrote: post #16

More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. I'm happy we're returning to normalcy, but it just makes me wonder "why now?" It's like the government and big business just decided overnight to declare "mission accomplished" when nothing substantial has changed. Last summer, for example, could have been the reopening, and we'd have better data and "…

Likely vaccination rate.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by spaetzleesser »

robertoandred wrote: post #119
WithinReason wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. There is a huge difference between "dying with COVID" and "dying from COVID".

So how many people are currently dying because of covid?

Probably whatever you want the number to be. If somebody dies while Covid-19 positive you can either blame it on COVID or you can blame it on other conditions or somewhere in between.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by CSSer »

Apocryphon wrote: post #117
CSSer wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They seem very rooted in the past for lots of ideas, which is ironic given the image and culture they try to project. For example, I've heard at least one story of someone being asked lots of irrelevant CS questions for a front-end role when they interviewed there. He did fine, but he said he felt like the interview somehow felt fifteen years out of date, which really stuck with me.

If the role was to do front-end development for internal tools, that might have not been all that irrelevant.

Maybe, that's true. There were more details that led to the impression but it's been too long ago now for me to remember them all.
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