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Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Chine -> banned crypto currencies EU -> plans to strongly control or outright ban crypto currencies US -> might also move against crypto currencies Idk. about India, Japan etc. but if EU and US moved they will likely follow. Just to be clear I'm speaking about crypto currencies like we think about them now, I'm sure there is a future for blockchain based currencies, potentially even spear headed by governments.

Doesn't India pretty well want to control their own money? Even more strongly than others? Not that they at same time aren't willing to provide services, just paid for in fiat...

What fire said.

Also I have hardly any idea about how India or e.g. Japan stand wrt. crypto currencies.

But probably they do want a strong control about their own money.

More or less any stable country wants that and would only give that up for major benefits (like joining the European trade Zone).

Though one think important to realize is that most crypto currencies are not currencies but securities. The reason for it is that they (especially BitCoin) fail some of the major aspects of a well working currency. Like it MUST NOT be deflationary (main point!), must be cheap to move (for companies at least), must have ways to constraint money laundering (which excludes full anonymity), must be as stable as possible, and other points.

Crypto "currencies" are more like securities, like stocks. But not backed by any real world value and mostly unregulated and 100% a bubble (question is how big).

Unregulated (and partial unregulateable), non-real world value backed, inflated stock should ring alarm bells, which is why I expect more regulations in the future.

Regulations which likely also "accidentally" will hinder (or even outright prevent) crypto currencies which actually act like currencies as long as they are not state backed.

Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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> No single piece of software has wasted more of my time than Nvidia's drivers I see you haven't used printers much :)

I had to install a new inkjet printer because kids now need to print out their homework during COVID. I swear to god if I ever become wealthy the printer industry is what I intended to completely destroy . Not in it for profit. Not positive sum whatever startup thinking. It will be Zero Sum. Edit: Lasers are fine. That will be left alone.

> I swear to god if I ever become wealthy the printer industry is what I intended to completely destroy.

Not he hero we deserve, but the hero we need!

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> Ponzi scheme Doesn't meet the requirement: New investor money to pay old investors. Which is not to say it's problem free, but that problem is at the exchange level. Art suffers the same flaws. And Yachts. And on and on and on. That's why we have regulations. Desperately need regulation at the fiat/crypto exchange

Yes it does - Bitcoin is mainly used for speculation. Paying for groceries with Bitcoin is too expensive (transaction fees) and you typically cannot use your Bitcoin savings as a collateral for another investment due to the price volatility. This means that if you want to cash out, you need someone else to invest their "new investor money" in Bitcoin.

Nah, a lot of things are that without being a ponzi, like Amazon stock. It pays nothing. Does nothing. Requires you to find someone who will pay more than you paid and sell it to them to make money.

It’s not.

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> It's sad to hear that graphics drivers are still not a solved problem on Linux. They are, Intel and AMD have shown that it can be done and it can be done excellently. NVIDIA just decided they do not want to be part of the solution.

I’m trying to be part of the solution by buying AND graphics card for my Linux box.

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Except no one professional would touch the leaked source with a 10 ft poll. Expect continued clean room reverse engineering or get sued.

Developers of the open source nouveau driver for nvidia GPUs certainly won't: https://nitter.eu/_Lyude/status/1498811646697000961

I honestly don’t care about nouveau. It’s a fine project, but as a user I know it as the preinstalled software that cripples my servers until I install the proprietary drivers.

If nvidia releases the drivers as source-available rather than open source that would still be incredibly useful since you can distribute patches. Their drivers are still missing basic features like fan speed control on headless machines.

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Except there is nothing "fair" about this. In all fairness these crypto-bros could buy the cards specifically made for mining, but they won't because they don't have any resale value. Only reason they are buying GPUs is that they can run it until something better comes to market and still sell it to some gamer who is actually going to use the hardware for its intended purpose. More power to Nvidia. If I could make th…

Woah there. I don’t like the crypto culture and mindset as the next guy, but there are plenty of other options to preventing use case you presented. If systems aren’t closed enough already… And as far as the gaming goes, I cannot see how playing games is more noble usage of gpu than crypto mining.

I've noticed a lot of directed outrage as a result of people unable to find a MSRP graphics card that I would almost treat as funny if it wasn't so scary to see how the internet culture changes. I can't speak to the motivations of grandparent or other single individuals, but I have noticed in other communities a lot of moral arguments being used very selectively that reminds me of my sociology class on the origin of the drug war and how moral outrage at drug use and the harms of drugs were pushed as the reasons for banning drugs, yet such logic was not consistently applied to drugs based on their actual harm to a community.

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Sure, but that doesn’t apply here. I am a technical individual who can make a case for the technology, and have for many years. All you precoiners do is complain that everyone else is getting rich and/or destroying the planet. It Just isn’t so!

What case do you want to make about technology though? That it is cool is I think pretty much accepted by everyone. The objection there being just because something is cool doesn't mean we do it especially if its at the detriment to the planet we live on. That it is useful? If you have time, please make that case. To avoid having a flamewar over it, lets try to be concrete and cite an actual project (even if in progr…

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No single piece of software has wasted more of my time than Nvidia's drivers, mostly (though not exclusively) on Linux. They've rendered my OS unbootable so many times over the years. So many times I've spent whole days of my life troubleshooting, upgrading, downgrading, configuring, rebooting. Then often reinstalling the OS after their installers mess stuff up in ways that are impossible to even know until they pop…

> No single piece of software has wasted more of my time than Nvidia's drivers I see you haven't used printers much :)

A printer has never made my entire system unable to boot. I've experienced an issue where gnome just grey screens and it takes me hours to diagnose and fix.

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No single piece of software has wasted more of my time than Nvidia's drivers, mostly (though not exclusively) on Linux. They've rendered my OS unbootable so many times over the years. So many times I've spent whole days of my life troubleshooting, upgrading, downgrading, configuring, rebooting. Then often reinstalling the OS after their installers mess stuff up in ways that are impossible to even know until they pop…

> No single piece of software has wasted more of my time than Nvidia's drivers I see you haven't used printers much :)

Netcat to address?

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> So, NVIDIA, the choice is yours! Either: Officially make current and all future drivers for all cards open source, while keeping the Verilog and chipset trade secrets... well, secret OR Not make the drivers open source, making us release the entire silicon chip files so that everyone not only knows your driver's secrets, but also your most closely-guarded trade secrets for graphics and computer chipsets too! Intere…

That cybercriminal’s name? Uhhh Tobias Lorvalds…
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