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Re: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

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Post by zvrba »

zone411 wrote: post #4

Interslavic is another similar project. They don't like Slovio too much: http://steen.free.fr/interslavic/index.html http://steen.free.fr/interslavic/faq.html#slovio

WTF/wow. As a native speaker of Croatian I can understand 80% directly and additional 10-15% by "interpolating into the context". Good work. EDIT: I don't like Slovio either, especially because of using x/cx/etc. instead of proper diacritics. EDIT2: I might event invest into learning it. I wouldn't speak any particular "native" language, but could find my way around all Slavic countries.

Re: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

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Post by krzyk »

zone411 wrote: post #4

Interslavic is another similar project. They don't like Slovio too much: http://steen.free.fr/interslavic/index.html http://steen.free.fr/interslavic/faq.html#slovio

That one is easier for me also (as a Polish speaker). Slavio looks more like Russian-first and other Slavic languages added on top.

Re: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

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Post by throwaway290 »

This sounds to have a Russian angle to me (e.g., the word 'vse'). Why not base on Serbian instead (which would use e.g. 'sve')? It sounds more traditional and often makes more sense etymologically (to my ears as a native Russian speaker; I can't properly speak Serbian but I did a brief foray into it).

Re: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

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Post by petargyurov »

As a Bulgarian speaker I was surprised that I could understand the entirety of this (though I assumed "лудис" means "people"; something I learned from listening to the Ukranian president's speech a few days ago)

> Новйу межународйу йазика! Што ес Словио? Словио ес новйу межународйу йазика ктор разумийут чтирсто милион лудис на целойу земла. Словио можете употребит дла гворение со чтирсто милион славйу Лудис от Прага до Владивосток; от Санкт Петербург через Варшава до Варна; от Средземйу Морие и от Северйу Морие до Тихйу Океан. Словио имайт простйу, логикйу граматиа и Словио ес идеалйу йазика дла днесйу лудис. Учийте Словио тпер!

Pretty cool.

Re: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

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Post by vidarh »

BurningPenguin wrote: post #22

I've learned some Czech about 10 years ago. Not much left, since i didn't need it that much (yes, shame on me), but i actually understand several words. Nice. Now i wonder if something like this exists for germanic languages.

> Now i wonder if something like this exists for germanic languages.

Dutch.

Only half joking. Dutch would at least make a great starting point in terms of written language.

As a native speaker with English as a second language and German as my third, I can read a whole lot of Dutch because it's closer in spelling to Scandinavian languages than German is, but has kept many words that are still used in German but archaic or different in Scandinavian languages.

It's not unusual for me to find it easier to read Dutch than to read the same text in German despite having actually had German at school but never having had any formal Dutch (and I have no hope of understanding spoken Dutch).

Consider a few examples: skip (Norwegian), skib (Danish), ship (English), schip (Dutch), Schiff (German). Or dag (Norwegian, Danish, Dutch), day (English), Tag (German). Dans (Norwegian, Danish, Dutch), dance (English), Tanz (German).

Where there's broad concordance between the Germanic languages, Dutch is usually close to the majority of the languages, but it often retains some spellings that are readily recognisable to the others when it's closer to German, and in the cases where it's closer to English those words are usually recognisable to other Germanic speakers anyway.

Re: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

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Post by zmxz »

msrenee wrote: post #19
dvh wrote: post #11

Slovio uses -s suffix for plural which is completely weird in any slavic language, -i would be much more natural (ulcas, domis, glovis vs ulci, domi, glovi) and that is what another panslavic language interslavic/Medžuslovjansky uses (ulici, domi, glavi): http://steen.free.fr/interslavic/

I'm only familiar with Russian, but "es" for "to be" feels weird too. And it's used where Russian would just omit it. Are there Slavic languages that are more liberal with it? And I feel like some form of Cyrillic would be much more natural both because of the available phonemes and because I believe most Slavic speakers would be more familiar with it than the Latin alphabet. As a non-native learner, I've always had…

> And I feel like some form of Cyrillic would be much more natural both because of the available phonemes and because I believe most Slavic speakers would be more familiar with it than the Latin alphabet.

(South) Slavic speaker here. Cyrillic would not be much more natural, we haven't used Cyrillic in over 30 years. Latin would be something all of us Slavenes would be able to read.

Re: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

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Post by nathias »

dvh wrote: post #11

Slovio uses -s suffix for plural which is completely weird in any slavic language, -i would be much more natural (ulcas, domis, glovis vs ulci, domi, glovi) and that is what another panslavic language interslavic/Medžuslovjansky uses (ulici, domi, glavi): http://steen.free.fr/interslavic/

yea that's weird, but in practice they both work I can understand both and don't understand Russian and Polish at all

Re: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

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Post by andrey-p »

petargyurov wrote: post #44

As a Bulgarian speaker I was surprised that I could understand the entirety of this (though I assumed "лудис" means "people"; something I learned from listening to the Ukranian president's speech a few days ago) > Новйу межународйу йазика! Што ес Словио? Словио ес новйу межународйу йазика ктор разумийут чтирсто милион лудис на целойу земла. Словио можете употребит дла гворение со чтирсто милион славйу Лудис от Прага…

You already knew лудис from люде :)

Re: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

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Post by petargyurov »

andrey-p wrote: post #49
petargyurov wrote: post #44

As a Bulgarian speaker I was surprised that I could understand the entirety of this (though I assumed "лудис" means "people"; something I learned from listening to the Ukranian president's speech a few days ago) > Новйу межународйу йазика! Што ес Словио? Словио ес новйу межународйу йазика ктор разумийут чтирсто милион лудис на целойу земла. Словио можете употребит дла гворение со чтирсто милион славйу Лудис от Прага…

You already knew лудис from люде :)

You're right.

You see, after not having much of an outlet for my Bulgarian in the past ~18 years I have forgotten some words!

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