Tinnitus is usually only described as a high-pitched ringing, but I think it gets far worse when it's on the lower end of the frequency spectrum. It's much more noticeable and can make discerning speech very difficult at times. But while the higher frequencies can be somewhat easily tuned out using white noise (like a fan), the lower frequencies are just always there, even when you're listening to music -- there is a…
> remember that noise-cancelling is NOT hearing protection I fell for this one as well. I wouldn't be to surprised if noise-cancelling could actually cause tinnitus, or make an onset of it worse (though I haven nothing but biased anecdata to argue the opinion).
Treatment for Tinnitus with Stimulation of Auditory and Non-Auditory Nerves
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#42Are there any people with tinnitus that have figured out how to sleep with earplugs on? My tinnitus gets worse when I try to sleep with earplugs on. I currently use my Airpods Max (at home) or Bose QC 35 (when traveling) to mask noise. Now that I've read that noise cancelling doesn't protect from sound, I'll only use this for sleeping and use actual earplugs in other situations.
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#43Tinnitus is usually only described as a high-pitched ringing, but I think it gets far worse when it's on the lower end of the frequency spectrum. It's much more noticeable and can make discerning speech very difficult at times. But while the higher frequencies can be somewhat easily tuned out using white noise (like a fan), the lower frequencies are just always there, even when you're listening to music -- there is a…
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#44Not quite a year since the CEO of Texas Roadhouse committed suicide while suffering from tinnitus.
Please delete this. This isn’t going to help anyone looking for comfort.
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#45Tinnitus is usually only described as a high-pitched ringing, but I think it gets far worse when it's on the lower end of the frequency spectrum. It's much more noticeable and can make discerning speech very difficult at times. But while the higher frequencies can be somewhat easily tuned out using white noise (like a fan), the lower frequencies are just always there, even when you're listening to music -- there is a…
Yeah, but that's the problem, just like the Western world attitude to masks and COVID.
With COVID, all those Western big babies referring to masks as muzzles, nappies etc. and shouting about "muh freedom". All this despite indisputable objective scientific evidence to the contrary that masks work, let alone all the subjective evidence from countries like Japan where masks are the norm during cold/flu season and so nobody complained about wearing them during the COVID era.
Well its the same with hearing protection, people don't wear it because they consider it makes them look dorky and they care more about their perceived image in others eyes than their own personal health.
But equally, I think venues such as clubs, cinemas, theatres and operas have to take their part of the blame. Does it really need to be that loud ? Exactly what "experience" is your audience gaining out of the excess loudness apart from hearing damage ?
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#46Not sure why I click into comment threads on HN about tinnitus, hoping for positive news or anecdotes, but it’s almost always the opposite. So I’ll share my positive anecdote. I’ve dealt with it for over 10 years, and while I can’t imagine how happy I would be to find an effective treatment, I’ve learned to cope, and do what I can to protect hearing going forward. And once you realize you can cope with it, it makes f…
I got rid of my tinnitus - which was not even the goal, it was not too bad compared to all the many other issues I increasingly had and which forced my hand - after removing the remaining amalgam fillings in my teeth and starting chelation treatment against mercury poisoning. The diagnosis was lab-supported (fortunately, there is no guarantee to get significantly elevated blood levels for low-level long-term chronic exposure) at a university clinic by a doctor not interested in making money from me, and not making any promises, always referring to this or that study for anything he suggested, and who also did not believe all my issues could be explained by the tested low-middlish mercury levels. With the last one he gave up after not finding anything else and the unexpected overwhelming success of chelation. For example, a nodule in the enlarged thyroid that I had had for two decades disappeared within weeks after i felt a lot of strange activity in exactly that area after the fourth DMPS chelation treatment, which made me go to see an endocrinologist to check again. That endocrinologist did not believe what he found - which was nothing - and had me lie down again and repeated the ultrasound, while consulting and comparing with his old printouts to make sure he checked the right area.
With my albeit limited bio-chem background I am well aware that there's thousands of ways for things to go wrong, so I'm definitely trying to advocate everybody with tinnitus has the same problem.
A list of conditions that I had, increasingly over the years, that all went away completely through chelation, is below.
Note that I thought of myself as "healthy" all those years (I would run a half-marathon without any effort and without pushing myself, just for fun), because I considered all my issues as normal part of life and had a brain-block preventing me from thinking about it.
- Jaw bone structure and integrity damaged in four sections - all of them where there had been amalgam fillings. Discovered when a doctor tried to inject something into the mucosa with insignificant pressure he ended up deep inside the jaw bone. He then tested and found the four sections.
- Tinnitus: I had a mild one, I only really noticed it at night. I didn't like it but I thought I could live with it. Well, turns out I won't have to: it is gone.
- Warts on the soles of my feet and on fingers. Their number steadily increased until I started chelating
- From year to year catching the cold was a worse and worse experience. The last 2-3 years (before chelating) when I got a cold in November I'd not get completely rid of it until April/May the next year!!! Needless to say, I don't care about colds any more. If I get one it lasts a day. - More and more times of being tired and needing sleep despite having had enough (sleep). I did LOTS of sports, still not enough. Completely gone, I'm never tired now except for the night!
- Phases of depression, esp. in winter: I seriously considered moving far south because I could not take winter any more. I remembered that as a child I had no issues and enjoyed winter, now I had gotten one of those daylight spectrum lamps to help. Completely gone! I have anxiety attacks, but decreasing in frequency and severity, and that's very different from depression.
- Occasional nose bleeds.
- Cramps. Legs, back, head.
- Digestion. HUGE improvement.
- Candida. A doctor even gave me a systemic anti-fungal medicine (I looked pretty yellow afterwards).
- Skin issues, especially on the head.
- Halitosis.
- BIG veins on my lower arms, ALWAYS.
- Lower urinary system/prostate effects.
- Significant brain improvements, which is subjective and I could elaborate but comment space.
- Speech issues: Occasionally (actually quite often, not a rare event) I'd use completely random words, realizing it only too late. People thought it was quite funny. I don't do that any more, and during the worst parts of my chelation (which I had started with some serious mistakes so that it was quite bad at the beginning) I had even more severe issues, and now also with writing (any text that I wrote, when I read it the next day I saw that often I wrote barely comprehensible sentences that made hardly any sense, but I felt 100% sure about them when I wrote them). All gone (or mostly gone? Well, you see what I'm writing here :-) ).
- Sleep. Both finding it and quality - and dreams, they are so very interesting now! - improved significantly.
- Computer worker issues: "mouse arm" and vision problems.
EDIT: You know guys, based on what exactly do you downvote this report of my clinical experience??? My tinnitus gone and the jaw bone structure damage a lie or what? Or that it healed by itself or was "psychological"?
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#47Tinnitus is usually only described as a high-pitched ringing, but I think it gets far worse when it's on the lower end of the frequency spectrum. It's much more noticeable and can make discerning speech very difficult at times. But while the higher frequencies can be somewhat easily tuned out using white noise (like a fan), the lower frequencies are just always there, even when you're listening to music -- there is a…
I wish there was a more stylish version of aviation headphones. I wear headphones because I don’t want to hear what’s going on around me, especially human dialogue.
That being said, I have had tinnitus all my life, not knowing it even had a name until I was an adult. For me it's a steady ~9 kHz tone. If the 'phones are on and the music isn't playing, I hear nothing but EEEEEEEEEEE, much like how I felt when I walked into an anechoic chamber.
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#48Tinnitus is usually only described as a high-pitched ringing, but I think it gets far worse when it's on the lower end of the frequency spectrum. It's much more noticeable and can make discerning speech very difficult at times. But while the higher frequencies can be somewhat easily tuned out using white noise (like a fan), the lower frequencies are just always there, even when you're listening to music -- there is a…
> remember that noise-cancelling is NOT hearing protection I fell for this one as well. I wouldn't be to surprised if noise-cancelling could actually cause tinnitus, or make an onset of it worse (though I haven nothing but biased anecdata to argue the opinion).
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#49YMMV but always worth a try!
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#50Tinnitus is usually only described as a high-pitched ringing, but I think it gets far worse when it's on the lower end of the frequency spectrum. It's much more noticeable and can make discerning speech very difficult at times. But while the higher frequencies can be somewhat easily tuned out using white noise (like a fan), the lower frequencies are just always there, even when you're listening to music -- there is a…
> Use them even when you think it makes you look dorky at the club or concert or sporting event. Yeah, but that's the problem, just like the Western world attitude to masks and COVID. With COVID, all those Western big babies referring to masks as muzzles, nappies etc. and shouting about "muh freedom". All this despite indisputable objective scientific evidence to the contrary that masks work, let alone all the subjec…
It's that idiotic macho posturing crap, as is all too often the case. There are always muppets pooh-poohing even basic precautions like safety glasses because they're "sissy stuff." Well, you'll cry like a sissy when a metal chip from the grinder flies into your eye. Earplugs fit right into that category.