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Re: Stripe: instant payment processing for developers

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How do you handle situations in which you can't tell if someone is legitimately undergoing hyper-growth or committing fraud? In a prior startup, I had my funds held indefinitely by PayPal and 3 separate merchant banks because our rapid growth made them suspect us of fraud or perhaps that our business was just too risky because our numbers were changing so rapidly. Our ultimate solution was to engage a merchant bank t…

There's no simple thing I can say here. There are situations where withholding funds might be required, but they should be exceedingly rare. In other words, we're hoping to eliminate false positives. In general, we're a tech company and we're looking for technical solutions to problems. We're also just culturally familiar with startups that explode in popularity, so we aren't worried about that kind of behavior.

You may want to seriously consider working on fleshing out this plan now. Paypal supposedly has thousands of people working in fraud control.

When word gets out that Stripe makes it "dead simple" to process credit cards without a merchant account, the vampires will come out to play. And I'm truly excited for a service like yours. We need this. But be prepared.

Re: Stripe: instant payment processing for developers

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Will strip offer hosted page in the near future? We are currently using Spreedly's hosted page for customer to input their credit card info so that we don't have to worry about SSL and other security issues?

We may at some point in the future, but it's unlikely to be one of our short term priorities. Stripe.js does make things easier for you, but you'll still need SSL.

Re: Stripe: instant payment processing for developers

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EDIT: removed so as to not hijack another announcement. Was not the intention, just wanted to offer something people thought was useful.

How good Stripe is at Fraud prevention? AFAIK PayPal claims to be Credit Card Fraud Protection service that happens to process credit cards. Does Stripe focus on fraud prevention?

We're working hard on preventing fraud.

Re: Stripe: instant payment processing for developers

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We work directly with Wells Fargo on our backend to make sure you end up with all the normal benefits of a merchant account (the money will be held in your name, you will be able to put whatever you want on your customers' credit card statements, etc.). We just want to abstract the whole process here -- basically, putting you on the account or accounts that makes the most amount of sense so you can start processing i…

Very cool. Is there no underwriting process then? That seemed to be one of the biggest steps in getting setup with Braintree.

There is quite a bit of screening/evaluation behind the scenes, but one of our goals is to not have legitimate businesses worry about any of it.

Re: Stripe: instant payment processing for developers

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Unfortunately, there are just a lot of regulations when dealing with payments across international borders.

Seriously, I really need to know something about this. It's driving me mad to keep seeing promising payment services only to find out they won't deal with me. Yours is the most compelling one I've seen.

One major barrier is that in many countries it's difficult to set up a service like this in a way that doesn't require it to be a bona-fide "bank", and setting up a bona-fide bank is often not low-overhead.

Re: Stripe: instant payment processing for developers

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Seriously, I really need to know something about this. It's driving me mad to keep seeing promising payment services only to find out they won't deal with me. Yours is the most compelling one I've seen.

One major barrier is that in many countries it's difficult to set up a service like this in a way that doesn't require it to be a bona-fide "bank", and setting up a bona-fide bank is often not low-overhead.

Do they even need a presence in other countries to be able to work with companies in them?

Re: Stripe: instant payment processing for developers

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Stripe pretty much takes payment processing kicking and screaming into 2011. Merchant accounts are a serious drag. I've opened a few and they've been nothing but headaches (especially if you're young—nobody trusts you.) Couple that with getting a gateway account, dealing with credit checks, monthly fees, monthly minimums, slow people in the payments industry, PCI compliance... Stripe takes payments and put them behin…

> Maybe if you're charging millions of dollars, you should use a regular merchant account. You should probably still use Stripe in this case. (Some people already are.) We scale up pretty well. Everything that you get with a merchant account (correct statement text, money held in your name), you get with Stripe. Additionally, there are some advantages for large businesses that would make Stripe more attractive than a…

We scale up pretty well. Everything that you get with a merchant account (correct statement text, money held in your name), you get with Stripe.

Key scaling issue is pricing. 2.9% is fine for low volumes and no risk validation, but once you're turning over large volumes and have a track record of no chargebacks etc the comparison looks much worse. If you can offer businesses a pricing that 'scales' with substantial reductions in transaction fee by volume then there is a growth path, otherwise any business would be crazy to stick with you no matter how good your service and APIs, etc because 2.9% could be half their gross margin and they can get 1% by dealing with the bank direct.

Re: Stripe: instant payment processing for developers

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> Maybe if you're charging millions of dollars, you should use a regular merchant account. You should probably still use Stripe in this case. (Some people already are.) We scale up pretty well. Everything that you get with a merchant account (correct statement text, money held in your name), you get with Stripe. Additionally, there are some advantages for large businesses that would make Stripe more attractive than a…

Q: Do I need to be in the United States to use Stripe? A: Yes. --> FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Would you finally be the one to tell us what the hell is the problem with non-US customers?

Not being able to cope with the fraud is the #1 reason why payment processors fail.

Most of the fraud happens with accounts outside the US. New payment processors always start with the US and slowly expand outward.

Being able to deal with fraud is how PayPal made itself when everyone that came before it failed.

Re: Stripe: instant payment processing for developers

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Q: Do I need to be in the United States to use Stripe? A: Yes. --> FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Would you finally be the one to tell us what the hell is the problem with non-US customers?

Unfortunately, there are just a lot of regulations when dealing with payments across international borders.

Something just occurred to me.

FastSpring, which is a US company, can actually work with non-US companies just fine. Why is that?

Also, at some point I asked them why they could, and BrainTree couldn't, and they said they can't really think of a reason why.

So.. What exactly is the deal? I'm dying to know.

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