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Re: Skip: A programming language to skip the things you have already computed

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Post by coldtea »

kazinator wrote: post #105
coldtea wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For starters, the first "test" was bogus: grantparent said "front page", but parent tried the naked domain (which Mazda doesn't intent to be the front page).

> Mazda doesn't intent Do you work for Mazda, or else how do you know? Is this intent published on the real site somewhere, which is what the user is trying to find in the first place when they try mazda.com? Maybe this is just some webmaster that needs to have their ass fired. Trying "mazda.com" for Mazda is the obvious thing for a user to do. I just tried half a dozen multinational corporations that are associated…

>Do you work for Mazda, or else how do you know?

There's this thing called common sense. Either they have a broken "naked domain" homepage for months and they didn't notice, or their homepage is www.mazda.com.

>Trying "mazda.com" for Mazda is the obvious thing for a user to do.

OK, fine, whatever.

>Not to have a page there which redirects the user to the real one, and just a permission error, comes across as astonishingly unprofessional

Which is neither here, nor there, to the actual question of this subthread: whether they have cars on their homepage.

That they have the naked domain not redirect to www, doesn't mean their homepage is that and not the one they actually present, fill-in, and treat as such.

Re: Skip: A programming language to skip the things you have already computed

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Post by Dylan16807 »

mst wrote: post #108
samatman wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's stopped me from using this syntax in the past is that it means LTE in basically any language I can think of. One can certainly design a grammar where it's unambiguous, I have in fact, but it still doesn't look right to me.

R uses <- which is less ambiguous at the cost of no longer having an equals sign in it.

That sounds like a benefit to me, not a cost.

Re: Skip: A programming language to skip the things you have already computed

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Post by interpenetrate »

andrenotgiant wrote: post #92
interpenetrate wrote: post #84

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I did just that recently. They certainly seem to offer the most complete solution. Definitely worth keeping an eye on. I had to pass because of its prohibitive license (for now) and the head-scratching bugs I ran into with the direct Postgres source. I also had some concerns about the complexity Materialize would add to architecture of the sort of small apps I typically build. I know this is unappreciative of the com…

Thanks for trying Materialize, (I work there!) What bugs did you run into with the Postgres Source? If you put them in a reply here or an email to andy@materialize.com we would be very appreciative of your feedback.

Thanks for the reply. I'll make some time this weekend to reproduce my issues and send them your way.

Re: Skip: A programming language to skip the things you have already computed

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Post by kazinator »

0xTJ wrote: post #95
kazinator wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the spirit of testing: Mazda doesn't show cars on their home page. Here is mazda.com: Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. You have to add www. to mazda.com before you can see any damn cars. And it's just one car I see; some fat SUV that looks like it's about to give birth to a pair of sporty twins.

I don't get your point. Plenty of sites have `www` (though most will forward to it from the non-`www` version. A company's homepage isn't defined as their first-level subdomain. On top of that, many companies have different homepages. Some are for their products, some are for their company.

> I don't get your point.

You must be like paid not to get it or something?

The corporate and product sites you are talking about firstly (1) exist and (2) link to each other. "Hey, this is our corporate site; if you're looking for products, click here."

Can you find another company that has the same revenue figures as Mazda (multi-billion dollars), and that is a widely recognized consumer brand, which has a broken web page at their root domain that doesn't redirect or link to anything, or even greet the user in any way?

It's pretty weird.

Re: Skip: A programming language to skip the things you have already computed

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Post by [deleted] »

coldtea wrote: post #111
kazinator wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Mazda doesn't intent Do you work for Mazda, or else how do you know? Is this intent published on the real site somewhere, which is what the user is trying to find in the first place when they try mazda.com? Maybe this is just some webmaster that needs to have their ass fired. Trying "mazda.com" for Mazda is the obvious thing for a user to do. I just tried half a dozen multinational corporations that are associated…

> Do you work for Mazda, or else how do you know? There's this thing called common sense. Either they have a broken "naked domain" homepage for months and they didn't notice, or their homepage is www.mazda.com. > Trying "mazda.com" for Mazda is the obvious thing for a user to do. OK, fine, whatever. > Not to have a page there which redirects the user to the real one, and just a permission error, comes across as aston…

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Re: Skip: A programming language to skip the things you have already computed

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Post by Mawr »

viktorcode wrote: post #58
mcluck wrote: post #10

Looks interesting but here's what I don't understand. So many programming languages do not show example code on the homepage. That's like if Mazda didn't show cars on their homepage. Sure, you won't really know what it's like to drive it without getting your hands dirty but at least let me see the trim.

Just click "learn more" button and you'll see step by step examples of the language features. A quick take on the front page can't possibly explain much about a language, maybe just a sample of syntax? I don't know why it would've been useful.

> Just click "learn more" button and you'll see step by step examples of the language features.

I got bored after about 5 pages, everything presented there is the same as in any other language. I want to see what differentiates this language from others, not what's the same.

That is what a landing page of any new language must accomplish - sell the reader on the power of your unique features as fast as possible.

Re: Skip: A programming language to skip the things you have already computed

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Post by jaredsohn »

kazinator wrote: post #28
mcluck wrote: post #10

Looks interesting but here's what I don't understand. So many programming languages do not show example code on the homepage. That's like if Mazda didn't show cars on their homepage. Sure, you won't really know what it's like to drive it without getting your hands dirty but at least let me see the trim.

In the spirit of testing: Mazda doesn't show cars on their home page. Here is mazda.com: Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. You have to add www. to mazda.com before you can see any damn cars. And it's just one car I see; some fat SUV that looks like it's about to give birth to a pair of sporty twins.

nissan.com doesn't show any cars. :)

Re: Skip: A programming language to skip the things you have already computed

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Post by da39a3ee »

julienv wrote: post #20
klohto wrote: post #2

Is it used anywhere? Github seams dead and the main contributor have left Facebook to start SkipLabs with DB related product SQLive.

That's what SQLive is written in. Hence the name SkipLabs!

anyone know what it was about skip that made it attractive to implement SQLive, put anything else in? What’s its pitch?

Re: Skip: A programming language to skip the things you have already computed

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Post by lostmsu »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #112
mst wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

R uses <- which is less ambiguous at the cost of no longer having an equals sign in it.

That sounds like a benefit to me, not a cost.

That also means they have to use spaces? Otherwise what is the difference between x <- 1 and x < -1?
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