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Re: iPhone 11 Emulated on QEMU

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Post by fomine3 »

neurostimulant wrote: post #55
gzer0 wrote: post #49

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I am struggling to understand where you are coming from. Can you elaborate? The cheapest second-hand iPhone that runs the latest iOS 15.0+ is an iPhone SE 1st gen (2016). Current prices on eBay indicate a price of $70. There is not a single Android that has been supported for this long of a time.

Second-hand iphones are expensive in asia. For example, that second-hand iphone SE 2020 you mentioned cost ~$350 here. That's more expensive than some locally-produced mid-range android phones.

Import Taxed?

Re: iPhone 11 Emulated on QEMU

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Post by borland »

kitsunesoba wrote: post #83
lucb1e wrote: post #73

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You can always uninstall it if it's crap right? It would be available to you as a choice, and now it's simply not available.

If the App Store becomes full of “checkbox ports” it’s going to be even more difficult to navigate than it already is. Part of that is on Apple for not investing more in discovery, but copious numbers of low effort ports isn’t a good thing to have anyway. In the game world, bad ports of console games to PC and bad ports of games from any other platform to the Switch are one of the most consistent gripes — quite often…

The app store has been full of "checkbox ports" since about 6 months after it launched

Re: iPhone 11 Emulated on QEMU

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Post by userbinator »

homarp wrote: post #2

from https://mobile.twitter.com/ntrung03/status/14992749382173818... iOS QEMU fork is just published. Some notable features: - iOS Restore - S8000 SecureROM emulation (always FORCE_DFU) - USB - SPRR/GXF emulation Tutorial/status can be found in the wiki section, e.g. https://github.com/TrungNguyen1909/qemu-t8030/wiki/Bringing-... It is still very far from a usable device: https://github.com/TrungNguyen1909/qemu-t8030…

If I read correctly, the "UI" is not much more than a serial console? In other words, nothing graphical?

Re: iPhone 11 Emulated on QEMU

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Post by smoldesu »

kitsunesoba wrote: post #84
smoldesu wrote: post #53

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Then it's not for you. No shame in admitting that. For other people, though, Macbooks simply also don't make sense. Wanna run that 32-bit plugin you use in Photoshop? You're out of luck. How about some advanced Docker development? Hope you don't plan on doing it locally. Hunted by your government for whistleblowing? Probably shouldn't use a laptop that can automate the process of ratting you out. If you're a webdev o…

> If you're a webdev or hipster programmer chasing the most lucrative Web3 gigs, sure, buying a Macbook is probably the kind of status symbol your peers will respect you for. At the end of the day though, they're all just tools with different uses. If you can use an ARM laptop for day-to-day work, then don't let anyone stop you from doing it. That’s a bit reductive. Macs are solid native mobile dev machines as well,…

I'm not here to take the piss out of your laptop of choice, but I'm also not here to write an exhaustive list of the uses for your Mac. The point that I'm working towards is that it's always a game of give and take. There's some people who a Macbook would be the perfect device for, who I will readily admit cannot use Linux or alt-systems to be as productive as they are now. Conversely though, there are a number of things that MacOS is laughably bad at, likewise there are a number of people who quite literally cannot use it as a daily driver.

The whole "this machine is more stable" and "my anecdotal opinion is x/y/z" nonsense is a non-starter for productive conversation comparing the systems. The upthread comment was warranted to call them out on Apple fanboyism; their statement was nonsense and exclusively backed by their personal experience. I've talked to enough "serious developers" to know that there are no perfect operating systems, and pretending like any one of them is king is just hubris incarnate.

Re: iPhone 11 Emulated on QEMU

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Post by mattl »

Ourgon wrote: post #87
fouc wrote: post #76

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For Canada, it looks to be hard to acquire a used one for less than $250-280 CAD. So about $200-$220 USD. Still a solid choice. I find it hard to imagine there's any android phone that can beat this phone for the same price (used or not!), OS support, camera quality, speaker quality, CPU speed & task switching speed, overall responsiveness, etc.

Ability to install a free software distribution, side-load software, run a plethora of Linux apps through Termux, fix the screen if you happen to break it without the thing complaining about "non-genuine parts", build, run and distribute software for the device without needing to pay a third party for the privilege of doing so, hook the thing up to a keyboard and display to use it for real work, install a full firewa…

I’ve yet to see anyone distributing music only in Ogg Vorbis save for some backdoored Spotify thing.

Re: iPhone 11 Emulated on QEMU

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Post by conradev »

For those that don’t know about it, you can find a fairly complete commercial iPhone emulator at Corellium: https://www.corellium.com/

It does essentially everything, short of hardware accelerated rendering

You can even emulate it being attached directly to your Mac and use it as a cloud device from Xcode

Re: iPhone 11 Emulated on QEMU

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Post by attilaperez »

fomine3 wrote: post #90
jychang wrote: post #48

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You can buy a used SE (2020) for only about $150 and that'll probably be supported for another 4 years. I've spent more than that from shopping at Costco on an empty stomach (rookie mistake).

Here in Japan, brand new iPhone SE (2020) is sold at $200 without contract. It seems that careers have too much stocks or quota so they need to sell them. I expect they are going to be exported.

Where do you see them being sold for that cheap? Cellcos?

Re: iPhone 11 Emulated on QEMU

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Post by fomine3 »

attilaperez wrote: post #97
fomine3 wrote: post #90

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Here in Japan, brand new iPhone SE (2020) is sold at $200 without contract. It seems that careers have too much stocks or quota so they need to sell them. I expect they are going to be exported.

Where do you see them being sold for that cheap? Cellcos?

Every electric shop like Yodobashi, and some cell career shop. Tend to be sold in weekend/holidays.

Technically it should be sold for everyone in $190 (22,000JPY), but some shops don't want to sell without contract. Govt make a regulation that limits discount for new contract to 22,000 JPY and careers must sell phones without contract. So shops should set non-contract price to 22,000, to sell for 0JPY for new sign up.

Re: iPhone 11 Emulated on QEMU

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Post by neurostimulant »

exikyut wrote: post #65
neurostimulant wrote: post #55

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Second-hand iphones are expensive in asia. For example, that second-hand iphone SE 2020 you mentioned cost ~$350 here. That's more expensive than some locally-produced mid-range android phones.

Wow, I'm very curious as to why! Is it because they're imported, or because the asia-side emphasis is on export? This also makes me wonder what the price dropoff across models is compared to the worldwide average. Is every model "oh wow" more expensive, or is there a gradient upward trend that tapers off the closer you get toward the iPhone 13 end?

Not sure why, but iphones simply has higher resale value compared to android phones with the same MSRP here. It's already that way from long ago even before the government ban import of used phones via IMEI whitelisting (Indonesia). If I had to guess, maybe because they're seen as luxury items, not just a simple smartphone.

Re: iPhone 11 Emulated on QEMU

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Post by dr_zoidberg »

yeahsure wrote: post #69
dr_zoidberg wrote: post #61

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There are countries were earning 12k USD a year puts you in the top 1%. Just to give you some context.

I live in one of these countries. There are lots of people who earn a lot less than 12k/yr but buy brand new iPhones. Why? Because their resale value is awesome. They lose very little value over the years, because a lot of people want to own one, so even used ones retain value. Even if it's something old like an iphone 6 or something like that. If you buy an android phone, chances are you're going to sell it for a lo…

It's also a status symbol, and as such they're bought not because of their intrinsic value.
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