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> I'm not sure that even if I worked for a non-profit doing work I thought was important that it would translate to my own job being something I wanted to do. Hi! I've worked for a few non-profits over the years. They are no panacea! Many businesses at least have a clear success mode: do good things for people and they'll pay you so you can do more good things for them. But the business model of many non-profits is s…
If you don't need money (permanently or temporarily) as a techie, don't work a job for a nonprofit. If you want to help people, take time off your high paying corporate job to contribute to free software, or run a forum website, or do citizen data journalism.
The state of burnout in tech, 2022 edition [pdf]
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There are companies that you could work for that would be win-win. Companies that are making the world better and still require talented software developers.
I would love to work at a company that does something great for the world. Like work on climate change or longevity. It feels so hard to find those roles though.
Could you talk a bit about why this kind of information is not enough? (I was in a similar situation as you a few months ago, and it took some time to figure out how to find work that was clearly good for the world. But the specific problems for each of us may be different.)
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are companies that you could work for that would be win-win. Companies that are making the world better and still require talented software developers.
There are! I've been interviewing with them the last couple weeks. I also have a personal project that I hope helps (meant to help get walking and bike infra built)
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#104I rose to a fairly high rank at Amazon. I was given explicit feedback to not get involved in certain day to day decisions or outcomes. There was immense pressure to disconnect from actual situations and focus mainly on the “goals”… that if you didn’t do that, you weren’t being effective and you were wasting energy, holding yourself back from getting to the next level. My first thought was that this feedback is around…
"It took me some time to piece things together. The reality is that leadership wants senior leaders to stay disconnected. It makes it significantly easier to make decisions you wouldn’t make if you personally knew the people those decisions impact." -This is something that me as a middle level developer never even thought or considered. Now things make a lot of sense especially the disconnect that leadership often ha…
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I would love to work at a company that does something great for the world. Like work on climate change or longevity. It feels so hard to find those roles though.
The parent commentator posted some links: culdesac.com, planet.com, cervest.earth. And some job sites: climatebase.org, naturetech.io. Could you talk a bit about why this kind of information is not enough? (I was in a similar situation as you a few months ago, and it took some time to figure out how to find work that was clearly good for the world. But the specific problems for each of us may be different.)
What did you end up doing?
Re: The state of burnout in tech, 2022 edition [pdf]
#106End overtime exemption. If an org can push workers for more work without paying them more, why wouldn't they? Solving this problem requires systems-level thinking. Understanding the incentives that result in burnout-creating interactions is key to creating new incentives that don't induce burnout. The quickest way to not fixing burnout is assuming that it is a natural part of software development, that it's up to ind…
I always admired the approach of one department manager.
His philosophy was: Never say "no" to what your department is being asked to do, but tell them how much it is going to cost (including paid overtime, contractors, etc).
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This is probably just grass is greener stuff, but I've seen the opposite. Now, that said, this was post acquisition, but my anecdote is that in our case the ICs were shielded from all the office politics shenanigans and were able to just focus on delivering work. Meanwhile, those in management positions were repeatedly pulled into agenda-less meetings, were "voluntold" for tasks unrelated to their jobs, and were gene…
I think you have a different definition of bullshit than me. Sitting in a pointless meeting so I can daydream or work on something while half paying attention? That sounds like a vacation where I don't get bugged by drive bys. Voluntold work is the norm for ICs, my condolences that you have to deal with it. I think your list is a a best case scenario of the bullshit ICs might have to deal with, and it's a good exampl…
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> Chronic understaffing, crazy time pressure, and lack of resources. This is endemic in the tech field. Plenty of SW jobs where this is not a problem (some even have good pay, not FAANG level, though). Go interview, and ask questions during the interview about it. Questions I've asked: 1. I don't check my email when I go home (unless there's a cross-geo meeting or something). Is that workable with this job? 2. What i…
The problem about being oncall is not how many times you get called, it’s that you cannot plan anything in your free time without having to take your laptop with you.
I share your concern - it's why I've never taken an on call job. But I've still interviewed for some and am willing to babysit a laptop once every 6-8 weeks if they typically get a small number of calls - provided there are other benefits to the job (learn something new, higher pay, etc).
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100% agreed. I'm not sure how big a problem this is, but it's been huge for me personally. I write software because I like solving problems for people. It's gratifying to build clever things, but for me it has to end in making the world better somehow. Even if it's just one person, which has happened when I'm building in-house tools. But there's so much out there that isn't about actually getting things done. E.g., t…
When you see the politics behind tech leadership it can be hard to unsee it. Everything is always the previous leadership’s fault, and whatever hot new methodology or design pattern is the current buzzword will solve all the problems that could possibly come up in the future. Everyone knows reality will be much more complicated than implied, but then whoever is working on that code when it happens to fall apart will…
The positive side is that I can now recognize the good signs too. And I'm much better at diagnosing and fixing issues. If the people with power want things fixed, which is definitely not a given.
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#110Something that doesn't seem explored here is the effect of working on ineffective work. Everyone will encounter something like the following in their career 1. There is a problem that your customers and you face - but you are not allowed to solve it for "Reasons" 2. The product area will never work, but you must continue working on things that no one will ever use for "reasons". Ever write exhaustive test coverage fo…