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Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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Post by kube-system »

aaomidi wrote: post #64
kube-system wrote: post #61

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The way people on YouTube get around the legal penalties for false DMCAs is simple: they don't file a DMCA request. There are several other mechanisms by which YouTube will gladly pull content: Content ID, contractual obligations, TOS violation, etc.

I still don't understand why Google went on the route of proactively removing content rather than reactively.

They just don't care. They're not a public service altruistically serving their users' videos up until the point the law requires them to take it down. They're an ad platform, trying to serve ads and not get sued.

Content ID was born out of a desire to keep Viacom happy after Google got sued: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viacom_International_Inc._v._Y...

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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Post by [deleted] »

causality0 wrote: post #49
TheDong wrote: post #25

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> this video only showed emulators and not ROMs It is probably still in violation of the DMCA. The DMCA also makes illegal tools that are primarily intended for circumvention, which these emulators almost certainly are. But, even moreso, removals of videos on youtube are typically not done through the DMCA directly, but rather through a private extra-judicial system youtube manages (content-id et al). Of course youtu…

I can't speak for other countries but emulators are 100% legal in the United States.

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Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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Post by wowokay »

ascar wrote: post #47
hombre_fatal wrote: post #26

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Switch has an e-shop with expensive games that will eventually get offlined within a couple generations like the ones before it vs. Steam, an e-shop with every game, for cheaper, including all the games people bought over the last two decades. I can imagine how disruptive a successful Steam entry into the console space could be once people realize they are tired of "renting" $60 games from ad-hoc console e-shops.

I have to disagree hard on this. Nintendo was on the forefront of making old games playable on the new hardware. On the switch you can play many old SNES and N64 classics included in the Nintendo online subscription at ~2-4€ a month. They re-released childhood favorites like Zelda Ocarina of Times and Super Mario 64 on the 3DS and I actually bought the 3DS (in a special Zelda variant no less) just for that and Majora…

They sell the old games, they are not free. All of there games are overpriced and never go on sale, probably because it seems like they only have a handful of games.

I don’t think it’s fair to say valve is late to the party, if anything they are first. There is a distinct difference between consoles games and pc games, the steam deck focuses on bringing pc games to a portable format, that opens the door to an almost endless supply of cheap indie games, as well as the potential for large AAA titles like Assassins Creed. The best part? Unlike Nintendo or PlayStation you don’t have to buy the game again if it’s already in your steam library, outside of Xbox play anywhere it’s the first time players don’t have to repurchase a game in order to play it on a portable device.

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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Post by munchbunny »

eezurr wrote: post #65

Nintendo really cares about the Nintendo experience, from their games all the way to the physical product people hold to experience them. And it shows. People talk about Nintendo as if a spell has been cast on them (much in the way Apple fans talk about Apple). If you look into how much Nintendo spends on R&D and compare it to their revenues, you'll see they are _really_ serious about R&D. It would be detrimental to…

I disagree with the "young" part, to the extent that plenty of young people who are not power users understand this tradeoff viscerally just as much as older people do. The main difference I see is that people who are of working age tend to be more willing to pay money/a premium for someone to remove the need to make those choices.

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Post by corndoge »

eezurr wrote: post #65

Nintendo really cares about the Nintendo experience, from their games all the way to the physical product people hold to experience them. And it shows. People talk about Nintendo as if a spell has been cast on them (much in the way Apple fans talk about Apple). If you look into how much Nintendo spends on R&D and compare it to their revenues, you'll see they are _really_ serious about R&D. It would be detrimental to…

Corporate censorship is unacceptable

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Post by mattnewton »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #26
jonny_eh wrote: post #12

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> Brand exclusives and a low console price are all it's got A lower price and better games is quite a lot actually.

Switch has an e-shop with expensive games that will eventually get offlined within a couple generations like the ones before it vs. Steam, an e-shop with every game, for cheaper, including all the games people bought over the last two decades. I can imagine how disruptive a successful Steam entry into the console space could be once people realize they are tired of "renting" $60 games from ad-hoc console e-shops.

The steam deck exists and seems like pretty much this! I have been very impressed with what I have seen about it.

But I am probably still going to buy breath of the wild 2, so I still need a switch...

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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Post by genewitch »

usrusr wrote: post #20
candiddevmike wrote: post #7

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There has to be an alternative reality where I can purchase Nintendo software on Steam, right? Nintendo would make so much money...

Sounds like a MacOS on third party hardware situation to me. Brand dilution and all that. I wouldn't expect that before they are end-of-days desperate.

the mid-90s called, they said "been there, done that". I can't even remember what other brands apple licensed their stuff to, but there were macintosh clones.

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Post by dmart »

eezurr wrote: post #65

Nintendo really cares about the Nintendo experience, from their games all the way to the physical product people hold to experience them. And it shows. People talk about Nintendo as if a spell has been cast on them (much in the way Apple fans talk about Apple). If you look into how much Nintendo spends on R&D and compare it to their revenues, you'll see they are _really_ serious about R&D. It would be detrimental to…

> There's nothing to be angry about.

Sure there is? This story isn't about Nintendo's curated consumer experience - that's perfectly fine - it's about flagrant abuse of the DMCA.

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Post by Apocryphon »

eezurr wrote: post #65

Nintendo really cares about the Nintendo experience, from their games all the way to the physical product people hold to experience them. And it shows. People talk about Nintendo as if a spell has been cast on them (much in the way Apple fans talk about Apple). If you look into how much Nintendo spends on R&D and compare it to their revenues, you'll see they are _really_ serious about R&D. It would be detrimental to…

I've made that observation in the past as well- it's quite interesting how Nintendo and Apple both resemble each other in creating iconic products that require intense amounts of control and lock-down. Also they both favor off-white coloring, or used to, for whatever reason.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8537649

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