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Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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There has to be an alternative reality where I can purchase Nintendo software on Steam, right? Nintendo would make so much money...

Sounds like a MacOS on third party hardware situation to me. Brand dilution and all that. I wouldn't expect that before they are end-of-days desperate.

But they already sell shitty P2W mobile games on the app stores, seems like hubris trying to maintain their own platform.

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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Nothing new here. Nintendo hates emulation with a passion. It passionately hates ways people enjoy their devices and platforms in ways they didn't intent. It hates fan projects, it might even hate its fans. Nintendo has a long history of lying in legal documents like DMCAs to take content that doesn't please them down. To be a dedicated fan of Nintendo's franchises is to be a masochist. The Steam deck doesn't just th…

most of that is not true about hating things. It is trying to make sure people are not stealing games.

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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I think the interesting question is, how are they doing it? I would think if you kept the game shots short and incidental the copyright would be fair use.

A judge would consider the fair use argument. I don't know that YouTube employs judges in content moderation. (I don't know that YouTube employs humans in content moderation, at least below director level.)

YouTube does not employ judges or humans in deciding whether to honor a content owner's request. It doesn't employ anything. It is up to the content owner to police themselves, only when they mess up royally will YouTube remove them from the content owner system.

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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I think the interesting question is, how are they doing it? I would think if you kept the game shots short and incidental the copyright would be fair use.

The DMCA is ridicously unbalanced. There's no penalty to filing false reports and if you disagree with a claim you have to hand over your personal information and fight it out in court. This is hardly a surprise given that the DMCA was written mostly by the copyright lobby; sadly, the law is working exactly as intended in such cases. It's time to redo the DMCA, but I fear the copyright industry has only gained a bigg…

You don't even have to file a DMCA takedown request to take down videos from YouTube anyway, they have an entirely extralegal mechanism for taking down videos.

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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> Brand exclusives and a low console price are all it's got A lower price and better games is quite a lot actually.

It sure is, but the cost of ownership if the Switch is higher than that of the Steam deck. Games on Steam are cheap and plentiful. The quality requirements of the Nintendo's storefront are ridiculously low. I've seen footage of the Switch WWE game and frankly it should never have been allowed into any store front, let alone the one people expect to be better. There are plenty of platformers out there, but only one co…

I think you're comparing Apples with Oranges when you mention the price of Switch games.

Sure, a three year-old Pokemon game might still cost $40, but you have a cartridge you can resell and get almost all of that money back (or even more, if you're happy to wait a few years). With Steam, every dollar you spend is gone forever.

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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Nintendo hates emulation that isn't generating Nintendo revenue, to be specific. They sell emulator hardware and emulator software via their platforms.

They would make more money from emulated content if they allowed you to transfer your purchases to the next generation console. So they don't just want to make money off of it, they want every emulated Nintendo title to survive the same way Grand Theft Auto or Skyrim does, except it's just you buying it over and over again on the newest Nintendo console.

They don't even let you buy MOST old games to emulate officially. There's plenty of SNES, GBA, etc games that do not have a legal path to play other than finding the original cartridge on ebay and hoping your original hardware still works.

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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Nothing new here. Nintendo hates emulation with a passion. It passionately hates ways people enjoy their devices and platforms in ways they didn't intent. It hates fan projects, it might even hate its fans. Nintendo has a long history of lying in legal documents like DMCAs to take content that doesn't please them down. To be a dedicated fan of Nintendo's franchises is to be a masochist. The Steam deck doesn't just th…

And out of all this, by far the most unethical thing Nintendo has ever done is refuse to release an English-language translation of Mother 3. I'll never forgive them for this, and I decided long ago I'll never buy another one of their products until they release it.

I'm sorry, but how is a company deciding not to localise and release a product to a certain market unethical?

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nintendo hates emulation that isn't generating Nintendo revenue, to be specific. They sell emulator hardware and emulator software via their platforms.

They would make more money from emulated content if they allowed you to transfer your purchases to the next generation console. So they don't just want to make money off of it, they want every emulated Nintendo title to survive the same way Grand Theft Auto or Skyrim does, except it's just you buying it over and over again on the newest Nintendo console.

And then they're spotty about what they'll actually allow you to buy that way anyway. I would have loved to play the first NA released Fire Emblem legitimately, but they only released it for WiiU.

Re: Nintendo is removing switch emulation videos on Steam Deck from YouTube

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The DMCA is ridicously unbalanced. There's no penalty to filing false reports and if you disagree with a claim you have to hand over your personal information and fight it out in court. This is hardly a surprise given that the DMCA was written mostly by the copyright lobby; sadly, the law is working exactly as intended in such cases. It's time to redo the DMCA, but I fear the copyright industry has only gained a bigg…

You don't even have to file a DMCA takedown request to take down videos from YouTube anyway, they have an entirely extralegal mechanism for taking down videos.

Guilty until proven innocent is what the DMCA is. Perhaps one of the most asinine, imbecilic, and nonsensical laws of our time.
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