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Re: Stripe: instant payment processing for developers

#141
First, I wish the folks from Stripe all the best, and the only thing I hoped was International companies support.

But as anyone tried Saasy (http://saasy.com/) ? They are the subscription service of Fastspring. They don't require a merchant account and support international vendors. While I haven't tried them yet, when I used non-subscription payments they were the best (www.fastpring.com). They are also very well regarded by indie developers so their subscription service may be quite good.

Re: Stripe: instant payment processing for developers

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Stripe pretty much takes payment processing kicking and screaming into 2011. Merchant accounts are a serious drag. I've opened a few and they've been nothing but headaches (especially if you're young—nobody trusts you.) Couple that with getting a gateway account, dealing with credit checks, monthly fees, monthly minimums, slow people in the payments industry, PCI compliance... Stripe takes payments and put them behin…

they've been nothing but headaches (especially if you're young—nobody trusts you.) Ah, things must have changed from early 2000s. I had no problems getting (pretty high risk) merchant accounts back in high school. That said, Stripe looks pretty cool. No more authorize.net mess=)

I'm a college student, and pay cash for nearly everything, so I have very little credit history. After trying 3 or 4 merchants earlier this year, I still couldn't find one that would accept me, even with my father co-signing. Stripe is good news for young businesses.

Re: Stripe: instant payment processing for developers

#143

I operate in what the credit card processors consider to be a "high risk industry". It's nearly impossible for myself or my competitors to get a merchant account without a reserve. In other words, for every $1 we charge, the merchant bank holds X% in reserve (until we hit a certain threshold). Thus, if we tried to defraud customers by selling bad products and then "disappearing," the merchant bank could use the reser…

https://stripe.com/pricing

There is a $15 chargeback fee.

Re: Stripe: instant payment processing for developers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're definitely working on expanding to other countries. There's no definite timeline just yet, but it's one of our top priorities.

I've held off developing / launching a few small biz ideas because of the state of payment providers in the UK - ready and waiting to help you test when you're over here :)

I concur entirely (and have spoken with my MP about it).

However, as far as I can tell, anyone using any of the more established "big name" billing services to collect payments for a UK company is almost certainly breaking at least one law on a "your business is at risk" scale. Stripe would have to be very special to do better.

The usual culprits are VAT (I have yet to find a billing service that would actually allow a UK business to comply with its basic statutory requirements on this count, including several that claim to support VAT) and privacy (exporting personal data, such as names and credit card details, outside of Europe requires certain guarantees, which again I don't think would be met by any of the services I've looked into so far). I imagine quite a few businesses are getting away with using these services and not meeting their obligations, but personally I wouldn't want to operate with that sort of risk, particularly now Business Record Checks are becoming big news.

Stripe does seem to have a fairly clean API, but on the flip side, it also seems very limited in features next to some of the more established competition, so maybe it's just horses for courses. Again, I know that none of the other billing services we've considered this year even got close to supporting the basic charging model we wanted, never mind all the bells and whistles we've been considering, and if you wind up having to do a bunch of financial legwork yourself, these services start to look like very poor value for money pretty quickly.

IMHO, what small businesses in the UK really need is for the government to stop hassling banks about lending lots of money (sometimes useful, but not to many of us) and just get them to provide basic services like card payments in a sane manner: no multi-month waits to get up and running, directly comparable charging structures on some standard basis, transparent migration of customer card data between all the vault services without causing a PCI nightmare so there is genuine competition in the market, and so on.

And then I woke up. :-)

Re: Stripe: instant payment processing for developers

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I'm not a developer, but I am considering selling things through my website and maybe also selling things in person outside any shop. Is there any particular reason I would pay a developer to build this into my site rather than just using Paypal (which I've used for years and had no big complaints with) and/or Square?

You would use Square for your in-person payments (Square, so far, is for brick-and-mortar stores whereas we are doing online payments). But we definitely are targeting developers more currently, so can see why we may not be as easy of a choice for you. We do offer quite a bit of analytics around what you are making and being paid out, and we also give you a viable way to get set up easily with minimal PCI compliance without having to use a hosted payment solution (so customers checking out wouldn't be sent to another website, which I believe PayPal's hosted solution does), so these features may appeal to you.

Re: Stripe: instant payment processing for developers

#148
Does Stripe allow delayed payments? That is, people put in their credit card details, Stripe authorizes the card but doesn't capture the amount charged, then we can approve/decline the transaction, and then Stripe can capture or void the transaction?

We have a situation where we need, for legal reasons, to verify that people giving us money are allowed to do so, and we really don't want to have to reverse the charge after the fact if we find out they're not eligible to pay us.

Otherwise, the system looks great, and I want to use it right now.

Re: Stripe: instant payment processing for developers

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I'm not sure about avoiding PCI compliance so easily. You're embedding their JS library on your page. That page has to be secure, otherwise if someone can inject malicious Javascript they can sniff the CC data as soon as they are entered. You might not be storing the data on your servers, or transmitting the data directly, but security failures in your setup can cause the data to be leaked. Compare this to sending th…

PCI is absolutely schizophrenic about this point, and right now embedding your provider's form within your own same origin domain is kosher with them. You're right if you're thinking it shouldn't be.

> You're right if you're thinking it shouldn't be.

Why do you think it should not? AFAIK, doing so exempts you (legitimately) from much of PCI DSS that applies if sensitive data hits your network, but does not automatically exempt you from the rest.

Are you concerned that someone will be able to compromise the page on your own server so it no longer embeds the payment service's form correctly, and then capture card data that way?

Re: Stripe: instant payment processing for developers

#150
Stripe, recently saved me. I am still fighting with my merchant processor *First Data who is awful. I talked to Stripe via Sean Harper with FeeFighters and I was up and rolling in 20 minutes. Yes, Jaw drop fast. Most payment processors require at least two weeks to be setup. Their UI/UX is beautiful and simple. When I need help I get it immediately. I love this company. :)
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