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AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

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Re: AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

#41
"We know - we know - they are not going to take the time to find the bits that made it sing and hum and make those parts better. We know that on a basic animal level that they don’t get it."

"Delicious is a bitter lesson for everyone. It’s the difference between how people actually use a product versus how rich, out-of-touch knuckleheads think people should be using that product, all to further their own self-interests."

Well said.

Re: AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

#42

I haven't been following this as closely as others (primarily because I was never a heavy delicious user), but was there a lot of pressure on AVOS to push out the new version as quickly as possible? I find it hard to believe that a company would try to relaunch a product without transferring a good amount of the historical data that makes it so useful. They should have taken their time and gotten it right. You only g…

Maybe the contract they signed with Yahoo had a clause that bound them to transfer all data from Yahoo datacenters by a given date? Maybe the code became so coupled with the Yahoo infrastructure that it would have been extremely difficult to deploy it somewhere else? Maybe – like most programmers – they underestimated the time needed to do the rewrite?

Re: AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

#43
post #20

That article needs to come with a huge "YMMV" disclaimer. I can still save my bookmarks via the bookmarklet. I can still view my bookmarks at http://delicious.com/sciurus . The transition hasn't impacted me at all.

Can you use a browser plugin with it (like I have been doing for many years now)? Because I can't.

Re: AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

#44
post #32

I am (was) a very heavy delicious user. Luckily, I backed up my delicious bookmarks a few weeks ago. The export function on the new site doesn't seem to work and if it does, I doubt all my bookmarks will be there. I started typing out a long laundry list of issues, but it doesn't matter. Suffice it to say the new site is nearly unusable. There is nothing new that is useful for users or that would attract new users, n…

Same experience for me, the site is almost entirely broken including the export feature. How they managed to get it all so wrong is beyond me.

Re: AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

#45
"Among the required changes is disallowing users to use the service with their previous handles, and making everyone use a “real name” policy."

Where in the new Delicious does it actually ask for this? I moved my account over and haven't seen anywhere in the settings to even enter anything other than a username. Just curious, because I agree Delicious has changed for the worse, but don't like the vitriol and froth in this post, especially if it's wrong.

Re: AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

#46
post #27

I could have lived with the changes (by ignoring them), but now tags are basically useless. All my tags since the change have been a mess between tutorial/tutorials, book/books, etc. Any recommendations for alternatives? (I've already checked Pinboard but it has a sign-up fee)

http://www.Xmarks.com

Re: AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

#47

I think this needs a little more thought. Think about this: Delicious doesn't really have a successful business model (if any). Yahoo! was about to kill it. Now AVOS picks it up. Why would a startup pick it up? There is no way they can make a successful business out of the current state of the site. But Delicious does have one thing: a big set of users and their bookmarks. Information. It is obvious that AVOS was goi…

Why did Yahoo! buy Delicious in the first place? I assumed Yahoo! would use Delicious' links and tags to cleverly augment their search engine ranking. I realize now that I was giving Yahoo! too much credit.

Re: AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

#48

I think this needs a little more thought. Think about this: Delicious doesn't really have a successful business model (if any). Yahoo! was about to kill it. Now AVOS picks it up. Why would a startup pick it up? There is no way they can make a successful business out of the current state of the site. But Delicious does have one thing: a big set of users and their bookmarks. Information. It is obvious that AVOS was goi…

Why did Yahoo! buy Delicious in the first place? I assumed Yahoo! would use Delicious' links and tags to cleverly augment their search engine ranking. I realize now that I was giving Yahoo! too much credit.

that was the idea!

Re: AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

#49
post #20

That article needs to come with a huge "YMMV" disclaimer. I can still save my bookmarks via the bookmarklet. I can still view my bookmarks at http://delicious.com/sciurus . The transition hasn't impacted me at all.

currently, i use the bookmarklet, and it eats the tags. there is a brief "you should use commas, convert?" that doesn't actually let me click before it disappears.
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