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Russian gas flows via Yamal pipeline to Germany halt, bids remain

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Re: Russian gas flows via Yamal pipeline to Germany halt, bids remain

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does not have to be painless. That's fine, it's a minimal price compared to what's happening to Ukrainians.

That's been my argument to friends and family this week. If an extra dollar per gallon is what it takes for fewer Ukrainian children to die then that's what it takes.

I don't mean just the cost of energy but also potential blackouts. But as you say, it's a price worth paying.

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I am quite afraid of Russia shutting off the gas and oil supply. I hope Europe doesn't give up on sanctions then, at least not right away.

Betting on Russia needing the income more than we need the resources.

Power will go out completely around here and partially in many other regions, but we can live through that.

Having solar (plus wind and batteries) is a major boon, and this would undoubtedly drive demand through the roof once people have no choice. Sadly, there isn't enough supply for everyone, especially power hungry industrial sites, and trucks/cars still run on fuel.

Solar concentrators would be easy to start producing locally, but they don't run well in cold temperatures and cloudy weather, plus they still need batteries of some sort.

Re: Russian gas flows via Yamal pipeline to Germany halt, bids remain

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I am quite afraid of Russia shutting off the gas and oil supply. I hope Europe doesn't give up on sanctions then, at least not right away. Betting on Russia needing the income more than we need the resources. Power will go out completely around here and partially in many other regions, but we can live through that. Having solar (plus wind and batteries) is a major boon, and this would undoubtedly drive demand through…

A benefit is that we can seize the opportunity to get away from relying too much on oil and gas.

Time to get started.

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I never knew until recently how tied up Russia's oil strategy was to their military / political thinking. If others are interested, this video has a great overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If61baWF4GE

Gas and oil is all they have to trade and they have a lot of it.

Re: Russian gas flows via Yamal pipeline to Germany halt, bids remain

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I am quite afraid of Russia shutting off the gas and oil supply. I hope Europe doesn't give up on sanctions then, at least not right away. Betting on Russia needing the income more than we need the resources. Power will go out completely around here and partially in many other regions, but we can live through that. Having solar (plus wind and batteries) is a major boon, and this would undoubtedly drive demand through…

I am certainly empathetic to having power and lights go out... In the midwestern USA, we survived last year with rotating blackouts during an unexpected winter storm that reached deep into Texas to parts that haven't seen snow in 50 years, and some parts ever receiving snow on recorded record.

That being said, people are dying because of cheap power and gas. I know it's easy for me to say halfway across the world from behind a keyboard, but I really hope you guys elect to have your power shut off (If that's what it takes) to help the people of the Ukraine. Russia knows Europe is energy dependent on it, and it's the one area we haven't totally cut them off on. It's a small sacrifice that would save a hundred thousand lives.

In the midwest, the grid operators had a plan to divert available power to critical places first like hospitals, traffic lights, etc. It was freezing hold and I had power for 45m every 2 hours for a few days. I survived, there were places I could go, life went on.

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I am quite afraid of Russia shutting off the gas and oil supply. I hope Europe doesn't give up on sanctions then, at least not right away. Betting on Russia needing the income more than we need the resources. Power will go out completely around here and partially in many other regions, but we can live through that. Having solar (plus wind and batteries) is a major boon, and this would undoubtedly drive demand through…

can solar run 24/7 factories?? it's not that simple guys

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GOOD RIDDANCE! Finally, Russia did what full force of 90% vote of German parliament cannot do: defeat the Russian gas/oil lobby in Germany. Germany is the country with most expensive electricity in Europe, and gas deals from this mafia is a near instant cash.

It's not Russia, so far. However, if Russia stops all fossil flow it would implement the Morgenthau plan. Not just for Germany. It is good news for USD vs EUR.

I don't understand this comment. A quick look up of the `Morgenthau plan` seems to indicate it was focussed on removing Germany's military power by crushing their industrial output and various other economic restrictions.

Russia cutting off oil doesn't seem to be synonymous with the intent of Morgenthau, it may have a similar side-effect but it's not the same as far as I can see.

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I am quite afraid of Russia shutting off the gas and oil supply. I hope Europe doesn't give up on sanctions then, at least not right away. Betting on Russia needing the income more than we need the resources. Power will go out completely around here and partially in many other regions, but we can live through that. Having solar (plus wind and batteries) is a major boon, and this would undoubtedly drive demand through…

can solar run 24/7 factories?? it's not that simple guys

As I said, batteries of any kind... Nuclear would be better, but that takes time to build.

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I am quite afraid of Russia shutting off the gas and oil supply. I hope Europe doesn't give up on sanctions then, at least not right away. Betting on Russia needing the income more than we need the resources. Power will go out completely around here and partially in many other regions, but we can live through that. Having solar (plus wind and batteries) is a major boon, and this would undoubtedly drive demand through…

can solar run 24/7 factories?? it's not that simple guys

They understand that.
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