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Which will lead to the remote workers changing companies. If there is no substantial advantage, those companies will become second class companies.
That's one way to evaluate things. Another way is to consider diversity in working methods a goal in and of itself, even if it doesn't further capitalist positive outcomes.
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#422Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which will lead to the remote workers changing companies. If there is no substantial advantage, those companies will become second class companies.
That's one way to evaluate things. Another way is to consider diversity in working methods a goal in and of itself, even if it doesn't further capitalist positive outcomes.
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#423I once flew in to the Bay Area from Europe for several meetings, but the most important one was with a team at Google. We were trying to finalize a deal and they really needed to be on board. I arrived, checked in and was shown to a meeting room. A few minutes after the meeting was supposed to start the receptionist came scurrying in and connected me to the meeting via that cube looking meeting machine they had in ev…
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> it get's very difficult to manage a large company without at least some sort of consistent policy. Why would that be true? Trust your staff to behave like adults, and trust your team leadership. This feels like a cop out from leaders who don't understand how to manage uncertainty, as opposed to an actual requirement.
Remember those Yahoos! Whom Marissa had to fire because those adults could not be trusted to do what they were expected to do and be responsible? Some had “multiple jobs” and both or more employers were getting the short shrift. Small orgs are like small towns, everyone knows who’s up to what. Large orgs are like cities…
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#426I think anyone who's claiming that remote work has been "proven" to be better or worse is wrong. There are some studies but they use estimations and proxies, carrying the same flaws as doing performance reviews based on lines of code. We've proven that the big tech companies can go fully remote and not completely crash and burn, that's about it. Some people love the lack of commute and less semi-forced hanging out, s…
It's "proven" better for me and I'm, never going back and that's all that matters to me. I feel like this is a trend.
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#427I've worked at a startup where everyone being there was essential in how we worked. (We were all pair programming.) It was great. It beats code reviews any day. I learned a lot. But when I was at Google, we would schedule VC meetings with people in a different part of campus just to avoid the walk. Also, I worked on teams that had people worked out in many offices, mostly not Mountain View. I was surrounded by Google…
> I think Google having a company-wide policy on this is nuts. Teams vary a lot. They should probably be left to make their own decisions. This seems rational until you are actually responsible for managing a large organization. First off, the article itself states that Google is giving a lot of flexibility ("Employees not prepared to return April 4 also can seek a remote-work extension, Google said. Since last June,…
This reads like an argument against single management for large organizations. If you need to fit thousands of square pegs into holes, perhaps it's not the best approach in the first place.
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#428In Big Tech, there are innumerable hard blockers that exist for reasons that almost all parties would think are stupid. Forward progress typically requires consensus or permission from potentially dozens of teams. In many cases the company doesn't view rocking the boat on a profitable product to be beneficial.
To at least some extent, when you are in the office there is at least some push for folks to find a way forward - while remote there is a strong trend towards the "tune out" option.
Re: Google mandates workers back to Silicon Valley, other offices from April 4
#429I think anyone who's claiming that remote work has been "proven" to be better or worse is wrong. There are some studies but they use estimations and proxies, carrying the same flaws as doing performance reviews based on lines of code. We've proven that the big tech companies can go fully remote and not completely crash and burn, that's about it. Some people love the lack of commute and less semi-forced hanging out, s…
Like most work related policies, I think this falls squarely under “it depends.” I’m an in-house video producer for a tech start up. I absolutely do not need to be in the office most days, let alone every day.
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#430I have been fully remote my entire career (several decades), in fact in 30+ years have never been on site anywhere for more than 2 weeks total. Wouldn't have it any other way. But as a counter-point, seeing a whole bunch of people who were never remote before, how little work they are actually doing, it is no surprise to me that a lot of employers are going to start forcing - to the extent possible - employees back i…
It happens if your company, originally on site, suddenly become remote. Nobody knows how to do remote works.
My manager is one of them. I am slacking because there is literally no tasks (no tasks given from him). Also same when in the office, but he has a habit of initiating small talk and assign / proceed tasks there, which isn't possible in remote world.
Changing at how you work remote is crucial at maintaining productivity.