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Google mandates workers back to Silicon Valley, other offices from April 4

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Re: Google mandates workers back to Silicon Valley, other offices from April 4

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There's a 95% chance that this is a disguised RIF. People they want to keep will be able to continue WFH if they want. People who are on the margins or destined for the Performance Improvement Camps will have to come in and warm seats if they want to eke out a year or two more of existence.

What is an RIF?

Reduction in Force.

Re: Google mandates workers back to Silicon Valley, other offices from April 4

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post #73

After two years of not being in the office, I don't see how anyone can justify going into the office without putting themselves into a quagmire of hypocrisy and contradiction.

I'm going to strangle my wife and kids if I have to stay in my apartment with them another two years.

This is why I moved out of the city into a big house with a backyard and home office. And it's cheaper than the apartment.

Re: Google mandates workers back to Silicon Valley, other offices from April 4

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There's a 95% chance that this is a disguised RIF. People they want to keep will be able to continue WFH if they want. People who are on the margins or destined for the Performance Improvement Camps will have to come in and warm seats if they want to eke out a year or two more of existence.

What is an RIF?

Reduction in Force. It's a term commonly used when companies are undergoing a large scale employee trimming. I don't think that google would do call it that. Probably just managers encouraged to increase the % of people who go on PIPs.

Re: Google mandates workers back to Silicon Valley, other offices from April 4

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Note: just an typical enterprise dev take, not in the Bay Area/part of the FAAMNG environment A big part of the equation (for some) will be what kind of office they are being asked to return to? At the office my company used to have before it was acquired in 2019 everyone had a cube, not big by any means and not with full walls, but enough space to have a few pics of family, maybe a plant, personal nick-nacks, whatev…

Our office is 100% hoteling now no fixed seats. No personal stuff unless you want to carry it in everyday you go in. Been a few months since I went in.

That's one of the issues with the idea of flexibility/choice/etc. If most people have different preferences, your's are not necessarily really an option.

Re: Google mandates workers back to Silicon Valley, other offices from April 4

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a 95% chance that this is a disguised RIF. People they want to keep will be able to continue WFH if they want. People who are on the margins or destined for the Performance Improvement Camps will have to come in and warm seats if they want to eke out a year or two more of existence.

What is an RIF?

Reduction in Force - way to lower overall employee headcount.

Re: Google mandates workers back to Silicon Valley, other offices from April 4

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Employers need to think of more incentives for those who have to go back to the office, especially full-time. Here's an easy one: get rid of open offices, give people their own offices. Or at least set up cubicles or cubes so people have more privacy. Basically anything to chip away at the antemorbum state of work layouts.

Re: Google mandates workers back to Silicon Valley, other offices from April 4

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Seems like people are eager to frame this as "see?! I told you remote would never last!" But when you look at the details, it's actually the opposite.

Every Googler I know who wanted to go full-time remote was allowed to do so.

Those who didn't choose to do that STILL don't have to be in the office every day; just a few days a week. Which I think is the right balance for most people.

The only people who should be unhappy here are the ones who wanted everyone in the office 5 days a week. It's a win for everyone else.

Re: Google mandates workers back to Silicon Valley, other offices from April 4

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I hope you don't mean the entire hospital has gone remote. I'd not be happy if my surgeon was working from home.

actually this is a significant probability in the near future with surgery robots

Doubtful they'll have a da vinci robotic control system in their home on their residential Comcast internet connection.

Re: Google mandates workers back to Silicon Valley, other offices from April 4

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> We've proven that the big tech companies can go fully remote and not completely crash and burn, that's about it. Agreed. We've proven that big tech companies can continue to be productive for up to two years going remote. I suspect that that doesn't generalize very well to being completely remote over the long term. It works well when you already have a bunch of personal relationships between teammates that were es…

> Agreed. We've proven that big tech companies can continue to be productive for up to two years going remote. This sentence amuses me a bit. Does that also mean that American Democracy has only been proven to work for up to 245 years? :-)

I mean.. yes? Except not even that, really, because the actual modern structure of American democracy is really closer to 100-150 years old (ie. somewhere between the country being broken in half and the 17th amendment introducing elected senators). But in the grand scheme of "humans having governments" it's pretty short either way, honestly pretty proportional to 2 years vs. "humans having megacorporations".

Re: Google mandates workers back to Silicon Valley, other offices from April 4

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Go in the stall?

Feels embarrassing to always go in the stall when I obviously only need to pee.

Grab some granola bars from the snack counter, bring them into the stall, drop them into the toilet so your coworkers won't think anything's amiss
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