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Spotify not out to completely embarrass you via Facebook anymore

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Re: Spotify not out to completely embarrass you via Facebook anymore

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Post by gte910h »

nextparadigms wrote: post #5

Why do Facebook and all these companies make the elimination of your privacy with a new feature opt-out, rather than opt-in? If they are really building that new feature to help the user, it should be opt-in and the user should have the option to choose it. But when they are making everything opt-out by default, they are clearly doing to help themselves. If your feature is actually that helpful, then make it opt-in a…

Using these services to build a login infrastructure is tons easier and comes with tons of things that are great for the company building it.

The percentage of people who are worried about privacy is smaller than you think, and those people are happy to use a smaller, worse login/checkout/whatever system if they get to keep their privacy.

Re: Spotify not out to completely embarrass you via Facebook anymore

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Post by brown9-2 »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #8
iamdave wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I missed that article, can you link it? Thanks

Sorry. Not Huffington Post, don't know why I could swear it was. http://www.snowtechnologiesconsulting.com/facebook-users-bew... EDIT: Because the author mentions HuffPo.

So, not to belittle anyone's privacy concerns, but isn't there a very simple way to make sure that most of these types of auto-share applications don't publish stuff to your stream - by never authorizing the app in the first place?

Re: Spotify not out to completely embarrass you via Facebook anymore

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Post by Cmo619 »

nextparadigms wrote: post #5

Why do Facebook and all these companies make the elimination of your privacy with a new feature opt-out, rather than opt-in? If they are really building that new feature to help the user, it should be opt-in and the user should have the option to choose it. But when they are making everything opt-out by default, they are clearly doing to help themselves. If your feature is actually that helpful, then make it opt-in a…

Not everyone is tech savvy. They bank on the people who don't realize the implications of over-sharing or simply just don't know any better.

The youngest you can sign up on Facebook is 14...how many 14 year olds are really going to care or know that maybe they should not let Facebook and every other 3rd party application know every nuance to how they use the internet?

Also by automatically having new privacy features opt-out, i'm sure they realize that if they lose 200k people because of it, it's nothing in the scheme of things. Plus chances are 100k of those people will end up reenabling their accounts at a later date.

Re: Spotify not out to completely embarrass you via Facebook anymore

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Post by mkjones »

nextparadigms wrote: post #5

Why do Facebook and all these companies make the elimination of your privacy with a new feature opt-out, rather than opt-in? If they are really building that new feature to help the user, it should be opt-in and the user should have the option to choose it. But when they are making everything opt-out by default, they are clearly doing to help themselves. If your feature is actually that helpful, then make it opt-in a…

This whole round of Open Graph apps that share stuff like what you're reading are all opt-in. You have to authorize the app in order for it to publish anything about you (or even know who you are).

(disclaimer: I work at FB, but not on this stuff.)

Re: Spotify not out to completely embarrass you via Facebook anymore

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Post by timdorr »

brown9-2 wrote: post #12
ComputerGuru wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry. Not Huffington Post, don't know why I could swear it was. http://www.snowtechnologiesconsulting.com/facebook-users-bew... EDIT: Because the author mentions HuffPo.

So, not to belittle anyone's privacy concerns, but isn't there a very simple way to make sure that most of these types of auto-share applications don't publish stuff to your stream - by never authorizing the app in the first place?

Yes, by clicking Cancel when you see this kind of dialog: http://developers.facebook.com/docs/beta/authentication/

Or by changing the default privacy setting where it says "This activity will be visible to:".

Re: Spotify not out to completely embarrass you via Facebook anymore

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Post by [deleted] »

nextparadigms wrote: post #5

Why do Facebook and all these companies make the elimination of your privacy with a new feature opt-out, rather than opt-in? If they are really building that new feature to help the user, it should be opt-in and the user should have the option to choose it. But when they are making everything opt-out by default, they are clearly doing to help themselves. If your feature is actually that helpful, then make it opt-in a…

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Re: Spotify not out to completely embarrass you via Facebook anymore

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Post by joebadmo »

From a blog post I wrote:

Zuckerberg refers to this as “frictionless sharing,” a dream of a kind of meta-panopticon with which everyone can see what everyone else is doing in real time. There are parts of this that I actually find kind of compelling. The Ticker is a nod toward “ambient intimacy” the idea that you can approximate the low-level intimacy of occupying the same space as someone, in a digital way.

But, by being public, the Ticker fails at achieving intimacy. Because if being in the same room with someone creates intimacy, being in the same room as everyone creates the opposite. It turns all of your activity into performance. And what many have hinted at is that removing friction from sharing just displaces that friction. If everything I do on the web is under the public gaze, I have to reflect for a moment before I take any action — before I listen to a song, watch a video, play a game, or click on a link. It simply moves the friction from sharing onto the activity, in the worst kind of self-censorial way.

http://blog.byjoemoon.com/post/10755504272/intimacy-and-perf...

Re: Spotify not out to completely embarrass you via Facebook anymore

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Post by dekz »

I fail to see a legitimate argument for using facebook when you simultaneously worry about your data being private. I may misunderstand the predicament here, is it that you don't want your boss/X knowing Y or you don't want facebook/companyX knowing Y? Hopefully it's not the latter.
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