also google probably should delete all new entries from Ukraine or review them manually. if deleting all of them is difficult for users maybe maybe op want to create falses? idk
Ask HN: Can you help me remove the marks for the airstrikes from Google Maps?
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Re: Ask HN: Can you help me remove the marks for the airstrikes from Google Maps?
#42It feels very improbable that a government would be using google maps for this. It feels even more improbable that even if they are, removing a mark from google maps would prevent them from launching an actual air strike. Surely a target important enough to "mark" would be worth finding an alternative way to target in case a bunch of keyboard warriors figure out your nefarious plan. None of this makes sense. I know i…
The invasion was so urgently cobbled together that many Russian forces were using amateur radios to communicate, they had no support infrastructure in place, or even fuel for the vehicles containing that infrastructure. Numerous soldiers were captured carrying off the shelf radios (literally think eBay), and there are various reports they rely on the mobile phone network to coordinate with central command. There was allegedly also a recent misappropriation scandal where cheap Chinese communications gear was purchased and relabelled before being sold to the Russian military, suggesting they might not even have real equipment to give to their troops.
Separately, having coordination done via "www.google.com" DNS & SSL ClientHello makes it all but impossible to block without disconnecting the Internet for the entire country, at a time when access to information within the country is more essential than ever.
Everything about this sadly makes sense
Re: Ask HN: Can you help me remove the marks for the airstrikes from Google Maps?
#43Yesterday’s discussion:
Re: Ask HN: Can you help me remove the marks for the airstrikes from Google Maps?
#44In times of uncertainty I always count on worst. If chances of this true are 10% and this is indeed true, giving it some attention is worth it. Edit: by attention I mean somebody from Google who can check things up
Agreed. Even a 0.1% chance makes a Google (or DoD) follow-up worth it.
Re: Ask HN: Can you help me remove the marks for the airstrikes from Google Maps?
#45It has been noted by number of analysts that it is surprising that Ukraine still has access to Internet. Everybody expected cyber warfare to be a major part of the invasion. One of the possible explanations mentioned: Russian army and its covert operatives need it.
Is the internet and electricity being on not possibly because the invaders don't have air superiority?
Re: Ask HN: Can you help me remove the marks for the airstrikes from Google Maps?
#46It has been noted by number of analysts that it is surprising that Ukraine still has access to Internet. Everybody expected cyber warfare to be a major part of the invasion. One of the possible explanations mentioned: Russian army and its covert operatives need it.
Ukraine has one of the best fiber optic and cable network systems in the world built 10-15 years ago. It had mobile internet in subway station and between subway stations in 2002-2004, way before anyone in the world.
Re: Ask HN: Can you help me remove the marks for the airstrikes from Google Maps?
#47We could run Ads: Tired of Starting a War on your Brother-nation? Apply for political Asylum in Europe now!
Re: Ask HN: Can you help me remove the marks for the airstrikes from Google Maps?
#48It feels very improbable that a government would be using google maps for this. It feels even more improbable that even if they are, removing a mark from google maps would prevent them from launching an actual air strike. Surely a target important enough to "mark" would be worth finding an alternative way to target in case a bunch of keyboard warriors figure out your nefarious plan. None of this makes sense. I know i…
As far as I understand the Russian equipment is awful and unmaintained. As a result soldiers in the field just use cell phones and Google Maps to coordinate. Yes they have the original military equipment as the source of the commands but it's much easier to communicate via cell phones. If you know Russians this makes 100% perfect sense... The solution isn't to remove it. Just move the locations slightly to an empty f…
Given the accuracy of the Russian artillery and rockets seen so far, "move it slightly" is a no-op.
Re: Ask HN: Can you help me remove the marks for the airstrikes from Google Maps?
#49Google employee here, though not on the maps team, I just raised it internally to look into (please continue to try to make edits, I don't know when it will be seen)
Re: Ask HN: Can you help me remove the marks for the airstrikes from Google Maps?
#50I don’t know if this is true. But to everyone dismissing the idea that a military would ever use Google Maps to co-ordinate, you may have missed some news stories about what a shitshow the first few days of the Russian invasion has been. Major breakdown of their digital systems and lots of improvisation.
Since SE079 (cellphone) is was very common in swiss army when I was in service, I would not be surpriced, if they don't use google services and so on today too.