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Re: Ask HN: Has Gmail stopped working for you with uBlock Origin on Chrome?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's a decent IMAP client that supports labels properly?

I use notmuch[1] with lieer[2]. Notmuch maintains a tags database with full-text search indexing for a set of maildirs, and Lieer uses the GMail API to synchronize messages with a maildir and labels with notmuch tags. There are lots of notmuch frontends available, but I use the built-in Emacs frontend. [1]: https://notmuchmail.org/ [2]: https://github.com/gauteh/lieer

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Re: Ask HN: Has Gmail stopped working for you with uBlock Origin on Chrome?

#42
post #33

Seems like a ublock origin bug. Proposed solution here: https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/t2n77i/gmail_...

It's an EasyPrivacy bug? That list is developed with ridiculously cavalier attitude. A few months ago they blocked workers.dev wholesale[1], that is, the entirety of Cloudflare Workers, for some sort of third party request on torrentfreak.com. I was flooded with user reports that day, and several days afterwards thanks to list caching. I was shocked that people who seemingly have no idea of public suffixes are tasked…

Hmm. I guess this is the rub of https://xkcd.com/2347/ ("Dependency"): narratives along the lines of "half the world's infrastructure depends on this random tiny support column maintained by one specific super-smart individual in their spare time (give them more money)" can make for fun junk food to feed our inferiority complexes, but that kind of sentiment rings of a distinct positivity and optimism when compared to how that same infrastructure can wind up on life support by (perhaps unwitting) incompetents who find themselves with noone to give account to because of the entrenched position they've wound up in in the woodwork.

I guess the moral of the story to me (TIL) is that there really is no limit to the places that Hanlon's razor (do not attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity) can pop up in the most cognitively-dissonant ways :v

Re: Ask HN: Has Gmail stopped working for you with uBlock Origin on Chrome?

#45

I suggest you practice browser isolation and use chrome only for Google logged in services without ublock. Use other private browsers for other stuff with ublock (Librewolf or brave).

In a vm so you don't have that spyware scanning your computer

Re: Ask HN: Has Gmail stopped working for you with uBlock Origin on Chrome?

#48

This is an wake-up call for everyone to migrate to other email service providers. Google only cares about invading our privacy, showing ads and making money. Thre's no reason to use products from a company like that.

My wake-up call... calls were when they suddenly decided to distrust me, my password, my secret answer, and just disallow access to my mailbox for no reason. "You can't prove you are you, go away". A true goolag.

Re: Ask HN: Has Gmail stopped working for you with uBlock Origin on Chrome?

#49

I suggest you practice browser isolation and use chrome only for Google logged in services without ublock. Use other private browsers for other stuff with ublock (Librewolf or brave).

Good advice. What I usually do is also create a few chrome profiles. One for Discord, one for Gmail, one for Shopping, etc. Firefox is also great for this kind of thing with custom container tabs.

If you want a more robust isolation, consider using Qubes OS with hardware-virtualized VMs.

Re: Ask HN: Has Gmail stopped working for you with uBlock Origin on Chrome?

#50
post #6

Might be a good idea to switch to an IMAP client instead?

What's a decent IMAP client that supports labels properly?

Geary[1] is one option for Linux users. It stores all messages in a giant sqlite database and models labels by "tags". It's still defintely wip though.

I do recall reading somewhere that these days Thunderbird does deduplicate messages with multiple labels, but I haven't tested whether it is indeed true.

[1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/geary/-/issues

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