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Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by simne »

reitanqild wrote: post #242
eatbitseveryday wrote: post #32

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> If you really want to help Ukraine, better to contact volunteers-entrepreneurs, who where on Maidan, and who struggle for economic freedoms, and support Ukrainian army as private persons, without government/state. > You could just donate, or you could create some business opportunity, so Ukrainians will make business, export working hours, or export some products to world. This makes sense, but I wonder if this wou…

Already I'll do what I can: I browsed Ukraine web shops and found at least Spar has an open webshop: https://shop.spar.ua/ . If anyone has an address to order for I'll try ordering some goods for the front line, bunkers or what do I know. In the longer term I'll do what I already do to China: I happily pay 20% more for small goods not made in China and in fact I try to avoid buying Chinese. At the same time I'll happ…

Thank you! At the moment, my contacts are extremely busy, trying to evacuate families to safe places.

These two contacts seem most trustful for me:

https://www.facebook.com/serhiyprytula/posts/505236280960977

https://www.facebook.com/backandalive/posts/2231987336958691

I will write additional info when will have.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by bcoughlan »

older wrote: post #568
8bitchemistry wrote: post #160

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Perhaps he doesn't want to find a new place to live, in contrast to Assange and Moreno.

So he's not that selfless hero after all and his actions are motivated by personal safety? Is this what you're suggesting?

He's a human being who has already made a huge personal sacrifice to defend our freedom. How about you?

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by simne »

eps wrote: post #250
simne wrote: post #50

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Thank You for answer. What I see now, kremlin for sure have not prepared for long term war campaign, they just have not built hospitals for wounded (thanks to western sat photos, provided by official sources), and this is extremely important, because in real war, 80% wounded die within 24h if have not received medical care in nearest 1-2 hours. And if will be resistance, attacking forces will have very large number o…

> they just have not built hospitals Didn't Biden explicitly say yesterday that they were preparing for the war and in fact built field hospitals, brought blood supplies, etc.?

Biden is not war specialist, he depends on analytics, and he is political person, he may sometime exaggerate things, to save lives.

Analytics said, Russian have TECHNICAL resources for war, but unknown in which condition those resources.

This remember me old anecdote, in 1960th, American analytics count overall area of all Russian secret enterprises, than compare it with American rocket enterprises, and give to Senate defense comitee prediction, how many rockets USSR already build, to suggest huge increase of defense spending.

Members look on this prediction, and asked one simple question: how they could been sure, that all those enterprises made just rockets? And where Soviets build cars, trains, other mechanics? Analytics could not answer to this, and where got out with shame.

Returning for technical resources, we have not before invasion know, what will be used.

And sure Biden insured for worst possible case, he thought, and we also thought, that Russia will attack with modern high precision weapons, but fortunately, this does not happen.

Now we know exactly, that Russian army mostly have extremely old machines, approximately 1970th if account from Western technical level, not Russian.

Thanks for sanctions on Russia, they have not modernized much machines for modern level.

And 1970th machines, are totally depend on people, they are not automatic at all, and to be exact, they are just support for infantry, which is extremely vulnerable for Ukrainian weapons.

Second question where, if Ukrainians will resist, or like in 2014 will drop weapons and surrender - we have Great answer for this question.

If Ukrainians where not resist, Russians would be used Ukrainian medical infrastructure.

So, kremlin mistaken. To be honest, all mistaken, underestimated Ukrainian forces and Ukrainian people, and overestimated Russians.

Because of these mistakes, I could talk to you from Kiev, and we still resist, and I believe, we will win, all world will win, with independent Ukraine.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by simne »

weisk wrote: post #68
simne wrote: post #50

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Thank You for answer. What I see now, kremlin for sure have not prepared for long term war campaign, they just have not built hospitals for wounded (thanks to western sat photos, provided by official sources), and this is extremely important, because in real war, 80% wounded die within 24h if have not received medical care in nearest 1-2 hours. And if will be resistance, attacking forces will have very large number o…

You seem like a knowledgeable person. What does Ukraine really have, that Putin so desperately wants? And best of luck to you, dear friends.

Thank you!

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Post by brigandish »

andruby wrote: post #531
brigandish wrote: post #351

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You don't mind wearing a sweater but I'm willing to bet you're not elderly, nor poor, nor living in substandard housing. Any of those would make your sacrifice simply one more example of an action that hurts the most vulnerable in society while claiming to be a good thing.

I'm sorry to have triggered you. I didn't mean to sound like that was a sacrifice . Elderly and poor will be hurt the most, that is true. If the source I linked to is correct, it claims it would only impact 10% of demand. While I don't know what that would look like in practice. I sincerely hope (and expect) that it would not lead to anyone, including the vulnerable, freezing to death, or getting seriously ill.

If you want to talk about people being triggered then I may as well talk about virtue signalling but it won't lead to an interesting discussion.

People in privileged positions often talk about making small sacrifices to fulfil some grand end. It always impacts the least privileged the most, whether that be through poverty or something like old age. We've just had 2 years of it with the pandemic, and now we're seeing it with war, and you've extended it to the boycott of a company providing a very necessary resource.

> it would only impact 10% of demand

What would it do to prices? My advice to you is to try imagining what it's like to run out of money before the end of the month and have to freeze your way to the next, then as an elderly person. The path to hell is paved with good intentions.

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Post by d0mine »

nautilius wrote: post #598
d0mine wrote: post #597

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I'm talking about dehumanization, about "one standards for us vs. another standards for them" It is so ingrained that people like you, don't see anything wrong with it. P.S. I don't care about downvotes. I'm surprised the account is not shadow banned.

See, and people like you put words in other people’s mouths, are unable to understand and follow a conversation and then conclude that the whole world is against them. But that’s not a problem because they just want to hear themselves. It’s just annoying for everybody else.

what you are doing is called gaslighting. Why bother?

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Post by dogweather »

amcoastal wrote: post #445
jl6 wrote: post #419

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Really, how much defensive value does this have for Ukraine? DDOSing Russian news websites just allows them to cry victim - “look, they don’t want you to hear the truth!”. Disrupting the Russian internet in general also harms any anti-war protesters trying to organize.

It is the job of the Russian people to stand up and refuse to participate in this conflict. Anything that makes their lives harder so they are more likely to do that, as opposed to just sitting around on their ass, is a good thing. The Russians need to band together and topple their dictator state, they are acting unethically and there needs to be a groundswell of support to oust someone like Putin. Simple democracy…

> in this conflict

They don't know there's a war going on.

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Post by Chris2048 »

belter wrote: post #537
Chris2048 wrote: post #516

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Again, these characterisations are easy. They are made on both sides. I can construct a similar line about the FBI incitement, casually throwing in disputed or hard-to-verify facts. I'd pick you up on "lying about it" - I consider the FBI to be heavily politically active, esp in the Trump/Comey times, so describing them as "law enforcement" in these situations is misleading. I added detail to my previous comment, but…

In 2015 Flynn was on RT, a Russian state-controlled international television network, funded by the federal tax budget of the Russian government. He advocated for the US foreign policy actions across the world to work closely with Russia. He was paid $45,000 for his appearance, but again "forgot" to report that income. What is the US bar for the word "treasonous"?

Apparently Flynn earns millions as a paid speaker - how much of that income was reported? Poor tax reporting/fraud isn't treason.

You are cherry picking facts without context, and just repeating tabloid headlines.

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Post by 100011_100001 »

exikyut wrote: post #603
100011_100001 wrote: post #479

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Since there is no way to contact you directly. I am interested in learning how to pen test etc. Do you have a recommended path to take? I'm lacking a good starting point.

I wondered this too but didn't have any good ideas (generally speaking, building theory, etc) Just belatedly noticed https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30471631 , perhaps you hadn't seen it

This is actually very useful. Thanks.
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