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GNOME 3.2 Released

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Re: GNOME 3.2 Released

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Anyone else move away from Gnome recently? I've switched to XFCE and find the workflow better adapted to what I'm used to, I gave gnome-shell a month or two before I couldn't take it anymore.

Me too. I went back to XFCE after a few months in Gnome 3, and functionality-wise I prefer. I miss the sexiness of gnome-shell, XFCE is pretty bare-bones. With the online accounts in 3.2, I'll probably give it another try.

Re: GNOME 3.2 Released

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Anyone else move away from Gnome recently? I've switched to XFCE and find the workflow better adapted to what I'm used to, I gave gnome-shell a month or two before I couldn't take it anymore.

I stuck it out with Gnome 2.x on Ubuntu, until I "had" to convert that machine to Windows 7 (for running IAR). Windows 7 is somehow an improvement over Gnome 3.

What is IAR?

Re: GNOME 3.2 Released

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The "web application" trick is a great idea. I think we may see this idea stolen soon by all major OSes.

This type of functionality is already supported by on Windows, OS X, and, of course Linux-based systems through Chrome, Firefox, and even IE. I believe that the first way to get this type of functionality was to use Mozilla's Prism project, which has been around since 2007 (though that is just the first that I am thinking of off the top of my head). I never end up finding these sorts of things to be very useful, since I always have a browser open anyway.

Re: GNOME 3.2 Released

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Anyone else move away from Gnome recently? I've switched to XFCE and find the workflow better adapted to what I'm used to, I gave gnome-shell a month or two before I couldn't take it anymore.

I was sceptical, but become enthusiastic to the point of not wanting to miss Gnome Shell anymore once I realized how great it works with keyboard shortcuts. For example: hit the windows key, start typing a couple of letters of the desired application or document, hit enter. Fast, convenient, great.

Re: GNOME 3.2 Released

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I wonder why their showcase features a picture of a DigiNotar certificate [1]. Could it be that DigiNotar was in the news recently?

From WikiPedia: "On July 10, 2011, a certificate was issued by DigiNotar's systems for Google by an attacker with access to their systems. This certificate was subsequently used by unknown persons in Iran to conduct a man-in-the-middle attack against Google services. On August 28, 2011, certificate problems were observed on multiple Internet service providers in Iran. The fraudulent certificate was posted on pastebin."

..and that was only the start of a whole chain of events...

DigiNotar went bankrupt a few days ago [3].

[1] http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.2/figures/cert...

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diginotar

[3] http://www.diginotar.nl/

Re: GNOME 3.2 Released

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Down to the "ON-OFF" button/switch it still attempts to look like something it will never be, MacOSX. Down.

This is indeed an unhealthy trend. The past years nearly all major desktop environments have been adding stuff like window compositing, shadows, translucent windows and other graphics gimmicks which just add bloat, bling-bling and no usability value. In many cases usability even suffered. For example, KDE4 removed a lot of configurability that made KDE3 such a malleable environment. It's fashionable to remove choices from the user and do windowdressing instead.

Ever had to drill down the network settings in Windows Vista control panel? As soon as you're past the initial window and at the TCP/IP settings tab, you're suddenly back in Windows XP land with the @#$% tiny list of interfaces, having to use both vertical and horizontal scrollbars, and no way to resize the window, thank you Microsoft. But at least the Start Menu looks like a glossy magazine, and have you seen the translucent taskbar? Wow! That's what we needed!

Re: GNOME 3.2 Released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I stuck it out with Gnome 2.x on Ubuntu, until I "had" to convert that machine to Windows 7 (for running IAR). Windows 7 is somehow an improvement over Gnome 3.

Yeah, right now I'm running Windows 7 on my desktop which is used only every now and then and my laptop is running Arch with XFCE. Have you taken a look at the fallback mode on Gnome 3? I tried it and it brought back the features I was used to but just the idea that it was a fallback mode was kinda unappealing, what makes the mode any worse off than gnome-shell?

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Re: GNOME 3.2 Released

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post #18

Down to the "ON-OFF" button/switch it still attempts to look like something it will never be, MacOSX. Down.

This is indeed an unhealthy trend. The past years nearly all major desktop environments have been adding stuff like window compositing, shadows, translucent windows and other graphics gimmicks which just add bloat, bling-bling and no usability value. In many cases usability even suffered. For example, KDE4 removed a lot of configurability that made KDE3 such a malleable environment. It's fashionable to remove choices…

No, of course not. Window compositing is a huge usability feature. It made me switch from xmonad to Gnome 3, because it just feels so much faster and responsive. Also, live miniatures are almost necessary (at least for me) while dealing with 5 terminal windows and another 6 emacs frames. And you lose nothing (well, ok, you do, in some cases it can be slower, take few more resources and so on, but that's the case with only some apps, not general). Making compositing and using accelerated video HW the norm is a step forward, not an unhealthy trend.
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