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Less secure apps and your Google Account

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Re: Less secure apps and your Google Account

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Post by gruez »

tomxor wrote: post #16

I've noticed gmail randomly blocks Firefox these days under the pretence of "your browser may not be secure" (i.e it doesn't persist through page refreshes), similar to how they try to make you do a captcha unless you refresh the page... I seem to have less and less control over where and how I am allowed to sign in (even thought I'm using a U2F key), and as a result I'm definitely getting pushed closer to the thresh…

gmail login works with tor browser (based on firefox), of all things. my guess is that you're using an outdated/weird build of firefox and/or you have extensions that mess with the javascript execution environment (eg. canvas blocker, user agent spoofer)

Re: Less secure apps and your Google Account

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Post by mnau »

einpoklum wrote: post #17

I suggest all HN readers use this opportunity to stop using Google accounts, if they haven't done so already. Potential benefits: * Better privacy (on many/most alternatives); Google will no longer read your email, store it for use by themselves and their partners, and perhaps pass a copy along to the NSA as Edward Snowden has revealed happens. * Less exposure to manipulative ads, and lower finesse of manipulation du…

You are missing key benefit: when Google locks you out of your account, you don't lose access to significant part of your digital life (your email, all these sign with google ect).

Google is using law of algorithm, not a rule of law. Trying to get to a person is nearly impossible.

Re: Less secure apps and your Google Account

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Post by 123pie123 »

rascul wrote: post #34

Google keeps making it more and more difficult for me to use their services. It's going to be painful when Google finally forces me off Gmail.

same here, so I use two to three browsers

1) Chrome for gmail and the odd other service (eg domains)

2) FF for general browsing (avoiding google at all costs)

3) Chrome based browser (Iridium) for the odd web site that needs Chrome or has too many scripts to open (and I really want to use the site)

Re: Less secure apps and your Google Account

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Post by pdpi »

alar44 wrote: post #37
tomxor wrote: post #16

I've noticed gmail randomly blocks Firefox these days under the pretence of "your browser may not be secure" (i.e it doesn't persist through page refreshes), similar to how they try to make you do a captcha unless you refresh the page... I seem to have less and less control over where and how I am allowed to sign in (even thought I'm using a U2F key), and as a result I'm definitely getting pushed closer to the thresh…

Your device is probably pwned. But go ahead and blame Google. I love how people just ignore these warnings.

“Your browser might not be secure” is a worthless error message. If you have a strong reason to believe this is the case, you should tell me. If you don’t tell me, I’m going to assume you don’t have a good reason, and you’re just scaremongering.

Re: Less secure apps and your Google Account

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Post by jerryzh »

shawnz wrote: post #28
vdfs wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you can still use IMAP with Thunderbird for example but you login to google account and Thunderbird get a token similar to how all OAuth works, what is blocked is using email/passowrd directly with your IMAP client.

What about clients which don't support that, like Google's "send mail as" feature? I suppose that won't be supported anymore?

They are exactly what are so-called not safe, take kmail as example

Re: Less secure apps and your Google Account

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Post by andrelaszlo »

lolinder wrote: post #48
rascul wrote: post #34

Google keeps making it more and more difficult for me to use their services. It's going to be painful when Google finally forces me off Gmail.

Suggestion? Start now. I moved my primary email to a custom domain a bit over a year ago, and it takes a while to slowly migrate everything over. You don't want to be doing that while under pressure from whatever it is that forces you off.

I'm looking to do that now, since Google will starts charging for (old grandfathered) custom domains. What service are you using for emails?

Re: Less secure apps and your Google Account

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Post by dddnzzz334 »

lolinder wrote: post #48
rascul wrote: post #34

Google keeps making it more and more difficult for me to use their services. It's going to be painful when Google finally forces me off Gmail.

Suggestion? Start now. I moved my primary email to a custom domain a bit over a year ago, and it takes a while to slowly migrate everything over. You don't want to be doing that while under pressure from whatever it is that forces you off.

Any suggestions for good privacy-centric email providers?
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